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Soundwave on 19 December 2016
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spemanig said:
Ljink96 said:

Going by rumors it's going to be $250, which is what the Vita and 3DS retailed at. I didn't bring up the other consoles because it was their respective competiton or not, I brought it up because Switch will be more powerful than all the devices listed, which is very appealing for the rumored price.

My entire point about the switch is, it's not a deathmatch with PS4 or Xbox One or Scorpio or Pro. Nintendo's simply trying to bridge the gap between their handheld and console markets. Which means, there won't be a stand alone handheld or a standalone console, so naturally when 3DS is discontinued, and Pokemon Stars or Pokemon Red Blue 2, Fire Emblem Switch, etc. come out, they won't be on the 3DS. They'll only be available on the Switch and that's where the power of the switch and its shared library come into play. People don't realize that Nintendo's handheld market, although slowly declining, is nothing to sneeze at. 61 million units is huge for a "Dying" breed. 

But not only will Switch inherit the handheld lineup, it'll have the console specific games as well. So I don't think it's so black and white as you portray it as. There are users who didn't buy a PS4 or Xbox One and don't care frankly, who own a 3DS. Once the 3DS no longer recieves support, if the customer was satisfied with the last 6-7 years of 3DS, they'll most likely buy the Switch because again, the software has moved. So you have that market that Switch is competing for. Then you have the market who does see Switch as a competitor to PS4 and Xbox One because they are aware or are interested in PS and XB and want to see what Nintendo has to offer. That's the market you're referring to and it's much smaller than the first one I've mentioned. 

Switch's success will bank mostly on the portable franchises that will jump ship from 3DS onto Switch. And those consumers who enjoyed 3DS will follow the software that you can't get on PS4, Xbox One, or 3DS. If Switch doesn't get support from games like Red Dead 2, Call of Duty, etc. (which have always sold poorly on Nintendo consoles), it isn't the end of the world. 

3DS and Vita aren't relevant to Switch buyers. PS4 and XBO are. It doesn't matter if Switch is 100x more powerful than a 3DS. It may as well not exist to them.

They are not trying to bridge anything. They are trying to unify their software platforms. That's different. Of course they are going to inherit some of their handheld audience because of games like Pokemon, but that's not enough. 3DS was only competing with Vita. Switch will be competing against PS4 and XBO. It's a completely different battle field, even with Pokemon. 61m people bought 3DS because the alternative was Vita. The alternative to Switch is PS4 and XBO. I can not be anymore clear. Nothing is black and white, but there are not many shades to this.

The Switch will absolutely die in the West if it banks mostly on handheld-exclusice franchises. The west doesn't care about handheld franchises. They care about home console franchises. No one in the mass market is hoping to buy the Switch for Persona Q or Zero Escape. They want it to but big budget, AAA, console quality games like Skyrim and NBA 2K. If that's not what's coming to the Switch, it will crash hard. That's how it was marketed, and that's why that video got 22m views on Youtube. Because it's being marketed at people who want a home console software experience.

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