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Einsam_Delphin said:
spemanig said:

No, not in tandem with the other factors. I've already mentioned examples that defy your qualifications. Volcarona was a powerful post-game boss. Level 70. Not a legendary. Shiny Hidden Ability Haxorus was. Level 60 AND higher BST than all of the UBs. Not a legendary. HGSS Snorlax was. Level 50. Not a legendary. ORAS Spiritomb was. Level 50. Not a legendary. Being a powerful end-game boss doesn't make a Pokémon "treated like a legendary." It just makes them an endgame boss.

Thd only thing that makes a legendary Pokémon "treated like a legendary Pokémon" is plot. To dismiss that is to dismiss fact.

 

Because they're post game bosses alone is not why they're considered legendary, it's that plus high stats, guaranteed 3IVs, genderless, unbreedable, limited number per game, no evolution, etc. All those factors at once are generally associated with legendarys.

Anyway, we're obviously not gonna convince each other so I'll be done here. I'm going to view them as legendarys, and if people have a problem with that, too bad!

Do we include Solgaleo or Lunala as legendaries as they are technically Ultra Beats, as stated in game.

My viewpoint is that Ultra Beasts whilst a nice addition to the pokemon world, do add too much if we are to consider them to be in the same league as regular pokemon. I would not of objected to them being unobtainable, save for perhaps Solgaleo and Lunala. A sizable portion of me wishes that they be excluded from other games (aside from transferring from Sun and/ or Moon).