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S.T.A.G.E. on 06 November 2016
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zorg1000 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

True fans of Nintendo in the past were no different than the Xbox and Playstation crowd. When they had little formidable competition Nintendo had two clean generatons with an overabundance of third party support no different than the Playstation and people bought third party in adequate numbers until the Playstation came along and third parties sided with whom they considered to be the clearer mind at the time. Nintendo has always had a bad reputation with third party because of their one sided demands. Nintendo has a lot to make up to old fans and needs to create a vision of sustainability to new fans.  

Asking for unique third party versions of multiplats is not a bad thing, but that comes after you've satisfied and normalized third party's existence on the platform. Nintendo has never completed the first step. Nintendo has had unique third party on their platform and it has not done as well as they would hope outside of Just Stance and the Wii U titles which sold nowhere near the competition. 

The whole point of having third party is so nintendo can solifiy their base so they dont have to look at the competition. Third party supplies alternative games to what they normally offer and it sweetens to deal for anyone who plans on gaming nintendo only but in the past might have been wooed over by sony or microsoft.

Once more....they should not put the cart before the horse when it comes to priorities. This has to be done with precision. Showing up with a new platform halfway through a Sony/ Microsoft war isnt helping either. They must tread lightly.

What you arent discussing is that the majority of the big selling 3rd party titles on NES/SNES were exclusives, games like Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, Street Fighter, Mega Man, Castlevania, Metal Gear, Ninja Turtles, etc. were only on Nintendo.

On the other hand you have Gamecube which had significantly better 3rd party support than its predecessor and got overall a solid amount of the mulitplat releases of that generation yet it saw a 30% decline from N64. Wii U launched with a handful of the biggest 3rd party multiplats yet they sold so bad, 3rd parties abandoned it and its Nintendo's worst selling console.

NES, GB, SNES, GBA, DS, Wii, 3DS all had a steady flow of quality releases found nowhere else and all found success and outsold the competitors offerings.

N64, GC, Wii U had some stellar titles but too far and few in between, they all sold poorly and were dominated by competitors devices.

As long as Nintendo releases a device at the correct price, with strong marketing and a steady flow of quality titles found nowhere else than they will have a successful product.

I already discussed the relationship Nintendo had with third party, but Nintendo kept them under their power exclusively. Sega was forced to fund a fleet of first party games because they could not gain access to a lot of third party games that were exclusive until their marketshare rose.

Gamecube had decent support. I saw the gamecube section when I went to Gamestop when I was younger. It was half the size of the Xbox section and a faction of the PS2 sections size. The Nintendo Wii by comparison had a very large section, but it was cconsidered one of the most abysmal collections of third party shovelware ever created to make use of Nintendos platform. You see...people made cheap games for the platform because I doubt they trusted the profitability. Even the good third party games didnt sell all that well either unless they were Just Dance for the Wii. 

As I said, Nintendo needs third party to take them seriously and they need consumers to see them as a brand that can balance first, second and third party by itself before they go all out with making third party making them unique versions of games. That demands the type of respect that well...only Ubisoft has for Nintendo and thats down to blind belief at this point because of Just Dance. Guess what? I doubt they can make Just Dance work on the NX without Wii Motes, so we will see in January. 

Nintendos price point is fine, but its a sham that they didnt cutt the price of the Wii U. They let that console sink further because of their pride. PS4 and Xbox One will most likely be cheaper than it on Black Friday. I hope the NS does well as i'll be getting one but as a person who has been playing Nintendo sine I was a cherub, they've lost gamers like me for a reason and i'd be blindn to say i still didnt see the NS as a secondary platform. Nintendo has some proving to do and if January impresses ill take the dive. Im not just going to believe in them blindly though.