| Soundwave said: Yes I think the alt-right will sink, because 50%+ of people under the age of 10 in the US are now a visible minority, so scapegoating "minorities" for white people consuming drugs (for example) or saying crime is rising with immigration (when it is lower now than it was in the 1980s) isn't going to work forever. |
Mass immigration has been going on since the 60s. It's one of the reasons why crime was so high in the 80s. You know what's gone way up since then? The prison population. The US has the highest per-capita incarceration rate in the world: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/spl/hi/uk/06/prisons/html/nn2page1.stm
Who are the people in the prisons?
https://www.bop.gov/about/statistics/statistics_inmate_ethnicity.jsp
33.6% Hispanic, 37.8% Black. So, yes, crime has gone down since the 80s, but only because we started imprisoning millions of minorities.
Furthermore, this has nothing to do with 'scapegoating'. Even disregarding the economic and legal burdens, diversity significantly reduces social capital in a community, as the groups have different cultural norms and ideologies.
You still haven't addressed why whites are the only race not allowed to live among those of the same race in peace.
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This is the alt-right's big chance, they got a favorable field of pissy weak Republican candidates and Hilary Clinton who has a lot of baggage and isn't a particularily charismatic or charming personality (Obama would've wrecked Trump if he could have run, I have zero doubt about that). I think "Generation Z" was mainly motivated moreso by Bernie Sanders, but because he was in a bitter race with Clinton, that has put Clinton in a bad light with that crowd, but people also learn to not be such (hate to say it) whiny bitches when they lose. You come around and support the candidate that is closer to your optimal views, that is part of being an adult (making sound decisions and accepting you don't get the picture perfect thing every time in life). Kids learn that when get to college and into their 20s and realize life doesn't give two shits about them and is waiting to slap them around. That's where idealism meets reality. |
You say that like Clinton appeals more to Bernie voters than Trump does. In reality, Trump and Bernie both appeal to the same working-class demographic. Just look at their views on free trade. Trump's America First policy is probably pretty appealing to those people who were screwed over by big businesses and Wall Street, while Hillary is literally the candidate of Wall Street.
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I do think while Bernie did not win this time, a person from the Sanders "movement" will eventually win in the future. Trump ... I'm more inclined to believe is a one off. Say what you want about him, and I have been as critical of him as anyone on this board, but he does have an interesting personality, a cult-ish egocentric show biz appeal that won't be easy to replicate IMO. |
This is certainly not a one-off. The more egregious the hypocricy and injustices are, the more people will be drawn to the Trump movement. Sure, Trump isn't the best candidate, but he's the first to explicitly appeal to nationalism in a long time.
| And the USA has always been a country of immigrants, it is not some ethno-centric society. Big portions of the US were built right over top of Mexico, there were hundreds of thousands of black slaves, Asian laborers, and Italian, Irish, and other communities lived in their own little "enclaves" seperated from each other early on too. It's always been a melting pot of different types of people. |
I've already argued about this:
| StarDoor said: And here we see the greatest myth (i.e. lie) ever concocted in American history. The Statue of Liberty was a French-gifted statue that went up in 1886, over a hundred years after the country was born. The fact that Emma Lazarus wrote a poem about immigrants (whom she hilariously called refuse, a.k.a. garbage) for the pedestal means nothing about the origin of the United States. The United States was founded by English people. It was built on English culture, uses the English language, and has an English form of government. It is not a nation of “open borders” and “multiple cultures.” It’s an English nation that managed to assimilate other Europeans into one culture. And for the tens of millions who came in the later 19th and early 20th century, assimilation only happened after legal immigration was curbed in 1924. “Why should Pennsylvania, founded by the English, become a colony of aliens, who will shortly be so numerous as to Germanize us instead of our Anglifying them?” -Benjamin Franklin |
Immigration policy was explicitly white for nearly two centuries. It only changed in 1965 against the will of the people.
