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Soundwave on 19 October 2016
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MonkeyDLuffy said:
vivster said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressivism_in_the_United_States

In the 21st century, progressives continue to embrace concepts such as environmentalism and social justice.[1] Social progressivism, the view that governmental practices ought to be adjusted as society evolves, forms the ideological basis for many American progressives.

Historian Alonzo Hamby defined progressivism as the "political movement that addresses ideas, impulses, and issues stemming from modernization of American society."

 

Could've fooled me. Actually looked up if progressive means something else in the US. Turns out it doesn't. Trump is against all change that does not involve building new walls. Very regressive in social advancements. Wants to abolish social programs. Sets the US back centuries in accepting cultural variety. He wants to GO BACK to where things were great, probably the 50s when he could legally jail black people for no reason and grab any woman by the pussy he wants.

HGillary is progressive, Trump is a regressive conservative. He's so badly conservative even the republicans don't want to be associated with him.

Hold on, now. Hillary is progressive and Donald is regressive? Now let's look at this. You named some things that you presume Trump wants to implement, and in your mind those are negative things. That's where we would get into a discussion of politics, which isn't exactly what I'm looking to do here. I'm sure you're convinced that a border wall is bad, and we could have a whole separate argument on that. However, what you're talking about here is implementing changes that a certain part of the population wants, or in their eyes, would be seen as PROGRESS. Right?

Given that, what about Hillary represents any progress? I haven't heard any new ideas from her. She just wants to continue what Obama has done, which to me doesn't seem like a good idea. I'm wondering where do you see any progress from her? Keeping Obamacare, which is going bankrupt and was designed to fail? Opening our borders, which would collapse our economy? Further dividing the races, which has given us riots like none of us have seen before in our lifetimes?

LOL, I'm guessing you weren't alive in the 60s or even aware in the early 90s if you think these "riots" are new and we had some kind of harmony in the past. 

Public healthcare is a good option most of the developed world agrees, unfortunately the Republicans allow greedy for profit drug companies to run the US health system and force any type of public option to be slanted towards for profit companies that take advantage of the system. 

Wall Street collapsed your economy 8 years ago, not some immigrant willing to work 12 hours a day in blistering heat to put food on the table.