Face it. It is over. Trump won.

[sundin13]

Mr Puggsly said:

Machiavellian said:

Just wondering Mr Puggsly, are you saying that Trump does not lie or are you saying he does not lie as much as Hillary. 

With Donald is more like hyperbole or maybe he needs to check his facts.

With Hilary... its just flatout lying to protect herself from potential legal problems.

Trump repeatedly says "I never said that" or "I've been against the war on Iraq since the beginning". Either he is a bald-faced liar or he is a tremendous idiot. Theres really no way around that.