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Soundwave on 04 September 2016
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Captain_Yuri said:
Soundwave said:

Bigger phones have had an impact for sure, because they offer some of the benefits of a tablet. So that's definitely having an impact. 

Still the tablet market is bigger (far bigger) than what's left of the "traditional handheld market" which is basically like 10 million 3DS' a year, a big chunk of that coming from Japan and Vita ... well ... yeah. 

I think Nintendo made their decision after doing research on kids, and if you really open your eyes to what's happening with kids, like look around next time you are in an airport ... it's a fucking sobering thing here. 3DS/Vita aren't getting killed by tablet-like devices. The got killed, dragged for another 100 km, buried in a hole 100 feet deep, and left to rot for 2 years.

That's where we're at. I think Nintendo really made this decision like 2+ years ago, that's when they decided to make the deal with DeNA to make mobile apps, that is when the genesis of the NX hardware would be taking place ... I think they made the decision then that mobile gaming was something they had to accomodate rather than try to compete head on against, because they can't compete head on against mobile.

All a "4DS" would accomplish would be to sell less than the 3DS. NX *might* have a chance to sell more or hold even with 3DS if they can tap even 5% of the tablet market per year.  

Yea but the issue isn't that the handhelds are getting rekt by phones. The issue is that they are entering a market that is also getting rekt by phones that is more competitive than the handheld market.

Sure the tablet market is bigger but it is also filled with more competition and it is in decline. And Nintendo's research isn't exactly what I would call consistantly right. Otherwise the wiiU wouldn't have happened. 

All I am saying is, have two skus. One that is 4-5 inch that is cheaper while the other is 6.2 inch which is more expensive and see which one sells... Cause putting everything into a device that is entering a very competitive market that is also is decline is not a wise choice imo.

And as for your argument with the whole "Tablet is a bigger market." If we look at the shipments and who Nintendo can compete against and take market share from:

We know that they can't compete against Apple or Samsung. So most likely, they will be competing against the others whoes yearly shipments are around the same as the 3ds... Oh and remember that tablets in general are in decline so its even less this year and most likely even less when the NX actually comes out.

Eh, your own chart lists "Others" as shipping 99.1 million units in 2015 alone. "Others" means a lot of shitty Chinese tablets and no-name tablet makers ... that's a huge, huge market. 

The 3DS shipped 9 million last year. 

If Nintendo can get even the same marketshare at Huwaei, which isn't exactly Apple, and add in their usual portable/console Nintendo buyer, that's 6 million or so tablet folkes and probably another 6-7 Nintendo faithful types .... that's 12-14 million shipments a year ... that is a decent number for Nintendo. 

If they were to sell a "4DS", they would be selling only 6-7 million a year.