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Soundwave on 22 August 2016
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RolStoppable said:
Soundwave said:

See my Apple example above. They lean heavily towards user friendliness and "mom approval" but they still offer modern, functional hardware. The iPhone may not match spec for spec every thing, but it's not like it's 5 years behind either. That's a balanced hardware design, what Nintendo offers is not. 

Nintendo is the one asking people to put up with badly out of date hardware, no other company really operates that way and is successful doing so. 

I also question the Wii's lasting legacy, Zelda BoTW was announced with no motion controls and basically no one complained. No one is ripping down Nintendo's doors for Wii Sports 3 or Wii Fit 3. 

In my opinion, the Wii was really a rip off. Nintendo basically took a GameCube which was a $99 system by that point and charged $250 for a repackaged version of it with a controller, that probably cost $10 a pop to make and was fortunate to hit pay dirt with the motion gaming craze, which had the perfect small window to thrive in before smartphones began offering thousands of games to casuals for 0 dollars in a more convienant form factor. Nintendo fans were asked to put up with SD graphics for six years for really no good reason. 

Even if they wanted to make the Wiimote the center piece of the system, there was no reason for the hardware to be that shitty, $250 was only $50 less than the XBox 360 vanilla system released a full year prior. 

So it isn't about offering new types of games and experiences. It's about making a console like Sony and Microsoft.

Every console generation has new gameplay experiences. This idea that "new gameplay experiences" only started with the Wii is a fucking joke, especially when Sony basically did similar ideas a few years earlier with Eye Toy. And you do know previous Nintendo consoles had controller innovations without selling completely outdated hardware, right? 1983-2005 did actually happen last time I checked. 

Or is a console with semi-competent hardware now a trademark of Sony and MS? 

I'm not asking for Nintendo to compete with Neo and Scorpio, I'm just asking for TV performance better than the average GPU from *five* years ago. I'd like something that is a reasonable upgrade on the Wii U if I'm going to pay another $250-$300 after 4 years. That is not exactly a high bar. It's not asking for a steak dinner with wine, it's asking for a hamburger that's at least properly cooked.