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JustBeingReal said:
Soundwave said:

I don't believe there's room. Beyond that I don't suppose it ever occured to anyone that Nintendo simply doesn't want to be like Microsoft or Sony. They just don't. At some point it becomes like trying to force a square peg into a round hole. 

Not to be an a**, but it really doesn't matter what you believe, if there's customer sales to be made, then there's room.

FYI making a platform that merges their handheld and console player base into one makes Nintendo different if that's what they're doing, outside of that it comes down to everyone building a box with it's own style of design and basically providing the world with access to a dedicated gaming device or devices at it's core.

Nintendo aren't unique, they've just convinced a bunch of people that they are.

Sony makes colorful, family friendly games, Microsoft have done too and 3rd party does as well, so this fallacy about Nintendo being the only one providing family appropriate games is exactly that.

They don't want to be that company, they've had 100 chances to go that route over the last 20 years and have basically refused to do so every single time. Get Resident Evil exclusive? Ah yeah, Nintendo going hardcor ... oh wait they made their console purple and cell shaded Zelda ... riiiiiight. 

They're a game developing company, they're already that company, they've ignored where their customers have gone, their tastes and they're suffering for it.

FYI Resident evil was exclusive for a time on Gamecube and it also had models in black, even silver, having colorful options doesn't mean a thing, hell Vita can be bought in all kinds of different colors, there are covers for PS4 that change it's color to more kiddy style options, tonnes of console makers have provided those options, but it doesn't mean they're kiddy only.

Nintendo backing ZombiU, Metroid, Bayonetta 2, etc proves that they aren't all family friendly, clearly they just haven't approached the task of making games for the market in the right way and they haven't understood who is really packing the buying power nowadays.

I don't think NX is going to be the PS4-killer console. Nintendo doesn't want to make that machine, you can rationalize why they should a million different ways, but they aren't going to listen. 

Who said anything about NX being a PS4-killer? It sure as hell wasn't me, making something that can handle the majority of games that developers want to make is a different thing entirely, as is wanting to gain a piece of the pie.

I don't have to rationalize something that is logical, from a gaming business standpoint.

Also I am just saying that this is Nintendo's best bet, otherwise they will just continue to loose their player base over time to other systems that provide more options.

And maybe at this point it's for the best anyway. Maybe this approach fails but the opposite approach could fail just as easily. 

This approach actually gives them the best chance, no it certainly wouldn't fail as much as Nintendo's current approach has been, Sony and Microsoft are clear examples of doing things right and Nintendo should quit with their arrogance and actually learn from people that learned this lesson a long time ago.

Nintendo is a kid-friendly/toy-centric company. That is their heritage and honestly I don't see them changing that. 

Nintendo are game makers, just like Playstation is (and to a lesser extent Microsoft), games consoles are toys, but they're also access points to a form of entertainment that's boundaries are only as limiting as the content creators that make titles for them.

Nintendo being only kiddy or kiddy centric is the problem, kids grow up, but they don't always stop gaming.

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Well it doesn't look like Nintendo heeded your advice with Wii or Wii U, and from the reports we are getting, it doesn't sound like NX is the system you are hoping for either.

I think one of the hard things for people to accept is the Nintendo of the 90s is no more. Yamauchi has passed away, and Howard Lincoln and Minoru Arakawa (key figures for Nintendo of America) are gone. The GameCube was largely developed/conceptulized in the late 90s too. They are a different type of company today.

From the sounds of it and I've read interviews from Mr. Iwata that say as much, to him in the later years of his life, Mr. Yamauchi stressed upon Iwata to not be like Sony/MS and to always be different. And I think this philosphy has basically carried on from there. 

Nintendo will make the occasional Bayonetta 2 type project (like maybe once a year or two at best) but they will never be comfortable having those types of games being a large chunk of their output. They are known for family friendly IP that are cartoony in nature and that's just where it seems they feel more comfortable.