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AlfredoTurkey said:
Soundwave said:

I've kinda come to accept that the OT simply cannot be topped. 

They will never be able to create a villian as good as Darth Vader, and the OT managed to create one even better than Vader in The Emperor. 

They will never have the spiritual underpinnings that Yoda brought to the series. There's just too many good things in OT that they just can't ever top IMO. 

They can't beat the twist of Vader being Luke's father, etc. etc. etc.

That said TFA passed my test of I was watching it on Netflix, just for 10 minutes, but I ended up watching the whole movie straight through again and even more shocking is my girlfriend, who is not a Star Wars fan by any stretch of the imagination also watched the entire movie. 

Pros to the TFA ... the banter between characters is good again .... sometimes really good, especially having Han back. Like a warm blanket, JJ really knows how to write and direct for Han Solo. 

Also when Rey gets the lightsaber .... goosebumps, goosebumps, everywhere. Oh I thought they handled the pivotal Han-Kylo scene better than I thought. Lucas of today probably would've had Han rip a giant fart at that moment. 

I didn't think it was a total waste. It felt more "Star Wars" than the prequels. The effects were right and the sound was all around great. But like you said, it's just no where near the OT and that's really what I want. To me, it was like going to see a reunion of a great band 20 years after their prime. It's nostalgic... it's cool, but it's just never going to come close to what it once was. I really don't see the point in spending money on watered down experience anymore. Yes, seeing Luke (for 5 seconds!??!?!) was awesome and Han etc. but that's not enough for me. The next two movies won't live up to the OT and that's my issue.

They probably could make Star Wars movies for the next 50 years and never quite top the OT, it's just too dramatic of a story. Everything they do now will just be kinda like "been there, done that" (oh look another Skywalker decides to turn bad). 

I kinda agree with not having Luke in Ep. VII too much, but I agree it would have taken away from the new heroes, but the problem is and I agree that ending the movie where it ends is a bit too much milking that precious mystery box that JJ loves. I get that it has a certain appeal and is actually fairly ballsy in a way, but I dunno. I think they could've had a little more of Luke.