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Pemalite said:
LurkerJ said:

I disagree, I am certainly happier with my premium iPhone than I was with my premium Samsung.


We aren't talking about individual user happiness here. We are talking about the technical merits of a platform...  But I will bite.

For every person who is happy with their iOS device, there are probably 10 others on Android due to how much larger the Android ecosystem is, it's a simple numbers game. ;)

LurkerJ said:
99% of Android phones released with SD 810 had embarrassing issues with heating up and throttling, were buyers getting good value for their money? Not to mention, they were getting a much inferior GPU, but let's not mention those facts.


You assume that every Android device used the Snap Dragon 810 chip.

And yes, it was a poor chip, I can give criticism where criticism is actually due.

LurkerJ said:

Let's pretend that only iPhone users get the shortest end of the stick in every scenario and there is nothing superior about the iPhone experience.


I have provided praise for iOS devices in multiple aspects where they are indeed superior to it's competitors, perhaps you are blowing this out of proportion?

So we don't disgaree so far.


My evidence is a little more ancedotal.

And we both know that the best selling device isn't necessarily always the best.

I never said so. I said people actually cared enough about the size of the iPhone screen and held off buying one until Apple conceded.

So now that I have proven that their screens are inferior on a technical basis, you just brush it away? Sure. Alright... haha

Android Screens in High-end Devices are simply superior and often not just in regards to resolution either, often they have better blacks, whites, higher gamut, higher brightness, better colour. etc'.
And that means you do get a better screen than what just the resolution implies.

Proven what? I admitted Samsung have the best displays on the market, I always do. I am just saying calling the iPhone screen "horrible" isn't fair either. 

The fact still remains (And for the love of God, stop shifting the damn goal post) that the iPhone's camera is inferior relative to the competition, regardless of how much they sold.
That fact doesn't change whether the Lumia 1020 only sold 1 phone or a billion.

And I do know that there are more to Camera's than sheer megapixels, such as aperture size, various features like image stabilization... You name it.

But if you can name an iPhone which had the *best* camera on the market bar-none, after the Lumia 1020's release, I will drop this point of argument.

I never said best, I said among the best, and in many years, they got the "best camera on a smartphone" badge. No device in the market competes with Lumia 1020 and similar camera-focused smartphones, why is it only Apple's problem that they are not aiming for similar monsterous cameras? I don't get it. If you say Apple users are getting bad cameras because iPhone cameras don't match the 1020, then every other smartphone buyer is a victim too. It's not a problem that is exclusive to iPhone users going by your logic.


It can still occur on the 6s, but with 2Gb it's going to be far more rare untill iOS and Apps get more demanding or you simply run more, 2016 was better late then never for Apple to finally do such a vital upgrade, huh?

Oppo is on the right track with 6Gb or more.

As I said, the only problem I ever encoutered thanks to RAM limitations was Safari tabs needing to refresh. I  am not sure that was a problem either, it refreshes too fast for me to care

iPhone does have an impressive SoC. 


Apple was also NOT the first phone to have a Fingerprint Scanner with it's Touch ID branded tech.
The Motorola Atrix released in 2011 beat Apple by several years.

I also had a laptop powered by the Pentium M over a decade ago with a "Touch ID" like fingerprint scanner, it's not a new technology by any stretch.
I will concede that Apple was the first company to make a decent implementation with mass market appeal.

I never said fingerprint scanners were invented by Apple, nor were touchscreens , they both existed long ago. Why is that relevant again? 

I also touched upon iOS having superior updates and software support, not sure why you brought that up? You are only agreeing with me.

Cool.

From a hardware perspective though, the fact remains you get more value for money with Android devices, bigger screens, larger battery's, better screens, various hardware features like touch-screen pens, optical camera zoom, replaceable batteries, MicroSD, USB, Dual-SIM and more.

Nope, that's not a fact. Only if you ignore the better CPU, GPU, 3D touch screens, Touch ID, and a much much faster storage solution. And you honestly can't just isolate the hardware from the software, the software is just as valuable. It's the reason why I switched to iPhones after all. See? it's easy to throw lists. 

Lastly... For the love of God, please use quotes properly, it will make replying easier.

I hate this website, it sucks on mobile

Soundwave said:
To be honest the screen resolution stuff is overblown too ... the iPhone 6S with 1080P on a 5.5 inch screen is a ton of freaking pixels per inch for a display that small. Yes the Galaxy and some Android phones have 1440P, but it's not as if the iPhone display isn't gorgeous still and the iPhone 7 will likely have a resolution bump too, the Galaxy is on a upgrade cycle curve that is usually 6-8 months ahead of new iPhone models because they need that extra time ahead of Apple.

There is more to the Androids having superior screens than just the resolution though.
Better Blacks, Whites, Colour, Brightness, Contrast, Response time, Gamut... Android typically beats the iPhone in more than just the sheer resolution numbers game...

The great thing with Android is that it also essentially competes with itself, meaning that manufacturers will constantly try to "One up" each other in the hardware stakes, the downside to this of course is also hardware fragmentation that software developers need to be mindful of.

 

Wth all the positives of having a varied line-up of devices from different manufactueres, to me, Android hardware options remain as anemic as those of iOS.

I want a device that is bloat-free, will be supported with the latest updates without me having to check some list on some blog to find out if my premium smartphone will get an update or not. That leaves me with the Nexus line-up. The 5X is very average, I did consider buying the 6P at some point but the screen is too huge for my taste and hands.