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archer9234 said:
darkknightkryta said:

How Timm and crew can get Batman TAS so right, and then completely screw up later on and behind the scenes is beyond me.

What I'm thinking happened: Batman TAS was basically a weekday afternoon show. And Beyond was a more important weekened series. Plus, they probably restricted them to keeping things more self contained, per episodes. Or it was because of the limited episodes per season. Batman S1 ran for 65 episodes. They had a lot of room to set things up. With 13, only on weekends. Probably blocked them from doing things more naturally. We could't get a fleshed out ending, for Beyond. Intill Justice League Unlimited.

It wasn't that.  I actually liked Beyond.  Bruce isn't nearly the ass that they were trying to portray in the rebound episodes.  They made it seem like he was in Beyond, but you only get that when Barbera's talking about him.  But in the rebound episode, they just went overboard.  As good as Old Wounds was, it didn't make sense.  Dick has worked enough with Bruce to know he was bluffing when he was threatening that guy.  Timm and maybe even Dini put this thing in their heads that Bruce is this super asshole and no one wants to work with him.  It's like Superman understood Batman better than Dick or Barbera.  Think about that for a second.  Even with the fling with Batgirl and Batman.  They only talked about it in Beyond, and in a way you can get away with it there.  Then they made that crap Mystery of the Batwoman, which luckily, Barbera wasn't in for more than a minute.  But what bugs me is that, I was watching the extras for Batman TAS and they were going on about "Batman/Batgirl" and how there was all these moments with them, and blah blah blah.  I was like ... "No there wasn't".  They literally put stuff in their heads that wasn't there.  Dick and Barbera interacted way more than Batman and Barbara in that regards.  So they literally made stuff up.  Did they have plans for that as they were making the epsiodes?  Maybe. It could be as you said.  But even the assifying of Batman to the extent that they tried to portray (Then renege on it).  It's like "Batman's an asshole!" then throughout the series "Well, he really isn't, but we want to make it look like he was!"  Like you can't have something planned, not do it, then pretend you did.  They NEVER wrote Batman like that in the original series.  Then to try to force it later on, something wasn't right and I don't think it was because of the WB switch.  Even running 3 shows at a time when Beyond came.  Batman/Superman was put on the back burner by that point.