So Nintendo should go 3rd Party, right? What about everyone else?

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Azuren said:

RossTheBoss said:

It does?

Pos	Game	Year	Genre	Publisher	North America	Europe	Japan	Rest of World	Global
1.	Call of Duty: Black Ops 3	2015	Shooter	Activision	5.28	5.62	0.33	2.16	13.39
2.	Grand Theft Auto V	2014	Action	Take-Two Interactive	3.57	5.46	0.32	1.90	11.25
3.	FIFA 16	2015	Sports	Electronic Arts	1.01	5.83	0.06	1.20	8.11
4.	Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare	2014	Shooter	Activision	2.79	3.29	0.14	1.36	7.58
5.	Star Wars Battlefront (2015)	2015	Shooter	Electronic Arts	2.89	3.19	0.21	1.20	7.50
6.	Fallout 4	2015	Role-Playing	Bethesda Softworks	2.42	3.04	0.23	1.07	6.75
7.	FIFA 15	2014	Sports	Electronic Arts	0.79	4.27	0.05	1.46	6.57
8.	Destiny	2014	Shooter	Activision	2.48	2.03	0.16	0.96	5.63
9.	The Last of Us	2014	Action	Sony Computer Entertainment	1.73	1.80	0.07	0.80	4.40
10.	Uncharted: The Nathan Drake Collection	2015	Action	Sony Computer Entertainment	1.92	1.58	0.07	0.71	4.28
11.	Watch Dogs	2014	Action	Ubisoft	1.40	1.84	0.11	0.77	4.12
12.	Far Cry 4	2014	Shooter	Ubisoft	1.11	2.09	0.10	0.68	3.98
13.	Assassin's Creed: Unity	2014	Action	Ubisoft	1.18	1.92	0.08	0.69	3.88
14.	Minecraft	2014	Misc	Sony Computer Entertainment Europe	1.29	1.76	0.10	0.61	3.76
15.	Batman: Arkham Knight	2015	Action	Warner Bros. Interactive Entertainment	1.46	1.51	0.10	0.59	3.66
16.	NBA 2K16	2015	Sports	Take-Two Interactive	2.36	0.61	0.03	0.65	3.65
17.	Call of Duty: Ghosts	2013	Shooter	Activision	1.77	1.41	0.05	0.38	3.61
18.	The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt	2015	Role-Playing	Namco Bandai Games	0.92	1.91	0.18	0.53	3.54
19.	Tom Clancy's The Division	2016	Shooter	Ubisoft	1.21	1.52	0.14	0.54	3.41
20.	Battlefield 4	2013	Shooter	Electronic Arts	1.33	1.51	0.16	0.37	3.37

In it's own Top 20, I don't see a single game that can't be found on another platform, or isn't a re-release from a previous gen.  You can't say that about any other console.  PS4 may have caught fire as "the must have console" of this gen, but it clearly wasn't for exclusives.

Being a remaster doesn't disqualify a game from being in the top 20, and if it did then you should remove them to show the top 20, not the top 18.

Not only that but if you look at games like GTAV, Watchdogs and Minecraft all of those titles are also remasters of previous gen console games so it's most like top 15 by his "you can't count those games" logic, not to mention that Ghosts, Battlefield 4, NBA 2k16, Farcry 4, Destiny, Fifa 15/16 and Black Ops 3 are also all available on last generation machines so if you wanted to count out games which isn't on the PS3 completely then you are left with this list basically being 7 games which would count as shots on goal in the mobile goalpost game going on here.

6 games, advance warfare is also on the PS3, so yeah 6 games which could be counted in Ross's logic are top selling titles, I'm trying to see how far down the list of PS4 games you would need to go to find 20 titles not on previous gen systems would wager a lot more than 0 are exclusive.

If you factored out games on Previous Gens and remasters then

Uncharted 4 becomes the number 7th seller on this list (which is at 22 overall)

Infamous Second Son would be number 9 on the list

Killzone Shadow Fall becomes number 11

Bloodborne would be 13

Driveclub is 15

The Order would be 17

Knack would be 19

which in reality sits at 48 but if you count out the previous gen titles then you have to take them out of the top 20 right? can't be having GTA5 on a list but saying The Last of US remastered cant be on there all the while having both titles take up space in that list of 20.