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Mummelmann said:
Farsala said:

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Shipments are up yoy and that is all that matters when compared to the 17.7m shipments last year.

Even if they were down yoy so far, it hardly matters in the grand scheme due to how much the holidays contribute to the total.


Either way I think the 20m requires another price cut.

Yeah, something needs to happen for 20 million to become reality, but quite a few users berated me for not supporting the idea of 20 million sales in 2016, even in 2015. Again, the notion put forward seems to be that the competition is moving so slowly that the PS4 is bound to have amazing sales.
That said, even without a 20 million selling year in its entire cycle (an idea I've actually suggested a long time ago), it should still sell a good amount lifetime. I also still believe it won't catch the PS1 and that the PS3 is a much more realistic target to beat lifetime, especially given the PS3's long life, which the PS4 won't have, by all appearances, the 7th gen was very long and we likely won't see one as long as that again.

When do you expect the PS5 to launch? People like to talk about the PS3's long life, but it was only half a year longer than the PS2's life (1 year longer if you use NA launch as the basis.)

 

If you expect the PS5 to launch in 2018, you are predicting that the PS4 will have the shortest lifespan of any PS console to date. This just seems improbable to me, with the Neo essentially extending the length of this gen by two years if Sony wants to.