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Dulfite on 27 June 2016
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Veknoid_Outcast said:
Dulfite said:

Varying opinions are wonderful, don't be sad! How come you liked the one and not the other?

The humor of Voyage Home was really the only thing, at least to me, that I found appealing about that movie (and it was very funny), but there were so many questions about the plot that just never got answered and little of it seemed plausible anyway lol.

I found the "evil" Vulcan to be, at least based on these first five movies and the first series, to be one of the most enjoyable and appealing "villians" in Star Trek lore.

I agree that Sybok is an interesting villain - especially for a series with so many indistinct and uncompelling bad guys. And the main players are dependable as always. But Shatner's direction was self-indulgent, and the entire production strange in tone. It veered wildly from broad humor to weighty ideas about existence and identity. The action scenes are poorly framed and the movie suffers in the final act from a lack of focus. The movie just seemed to be pulling in several different directions.

As for IV, I adore it. It was loose, and funny, and warm, but it also touched on some classic science-fiction tropes: time travel, environmentalism, and using a utopian future as a lens with which to view the present. I think it's remarkable that Meyer, Bennett, and Nimoy managed to make an excellent Trek movie with almost no spacebound action, virtually no Enterprise, or even a real villain.

Interesting perspectives! I see what your saying on those movies, but I still didn't like the whole whale thing, especially considering they didn't have explain what the heck that alien race was really about at all or where they were going after or if that could ever be a threat again.