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theprof00 said:
@lurker
Ned was never a bad guy. He's a lawful good. He's like the paragon of hero. The whore thing never happened, as we will soon find out.
The Jaime thing, yeah that was fucked up, but wasn't done to purposefully be an asshole. I'm sure we will see what happens this coming episode. Killing a king is something that is simply dishonorable. It's doubly messed up that he basically did the same thing to the sword of the morning. But, it doesn't make him a bad guy. Just makes him stubborn and somewhat of a hypocrite.

And Robb wasn't a bad guy, but he did break an oath.

I believe Jaime was a villain at the beginning of the show. He may not have always been until the kingslayer bit. He's a total asshole, but he's loyal and loves his family a lot (a bit too much wink wink). Over the course of the show we've seen him take a heel-face turn. He's realizing that what he believed in was wrong. He even held an oath to catelyn, and it's pretty apparent he and brienne get along more than well.

Jamie's good side was shown way before he told Brienne about the origins of the Nickname "kingslayer". 

He refused to fight Ned when he was injured. He argued fiercely with his father over it. He also was very kind to his brother and stood for him against Cersei. 

I think we agree more than we disagree on this, Jamie is a realist who sees life for what it is.