| ZhugeEX said:
Come on buddy. This reads like a fanboy post. I don't see why. I don't considering post my opinion a fanboy thing, at all, expecially cause usually i believe i am objective, even when i talk about Nintendo. Octimist, maybe, at most, but not a fanboy. I've said many times that the handheld market as a whole is irrelevant and dead. I've said similar things about the home console market in Japan as well. There is a difference between saying that a market is irrelevant and saying is death. Saying is irrelevant could mean that overall is not as big as others markets, indeed yes handhelds are irrelevant if compared to mobile, like home console are irrelevant if compared to handhelds in Japan. This doesn't mean the whole market is DEATH. Until there is even only a system which is selling great, this mean that there is still space for that market. If you wanna my opinion, we can say that a market is "death" only when is seriusly all is done. But until Nintendo will always sells massive numbers like +70 million or even only about 40/50 million, that will still be an active market, maybe small? Maybe irrevelant? But definitively not death. And you know my concerns around the home console market worldwide when it comes to hardware sales, that's where my 150m number comes from. Me pointing out that the install base will be less than most people think, and I made those forecasts at a time when most analysts were putting out numbers like 200m+. But you and I both know that whilst the home console market has seen a contraction in the number of players and retail publishers, it's also seen a more core audience emerge who are spending more on games, digital content and services this generation. The numbers for both hardware, software and overall engagement/spend are not even comparable between the Home Console market and Dedicated Handheld market. I don't think this really matter at all. It's just that 3DS recently didn't got big games, and even if so, home console always get more games thanks third party, this isn't new. Asking me to say that PS Vita must be dead too isn't really helping your case here. It sounds like you think I have an agenda against only the 3DS or something. As i mentioned above, I've talked many times about how handhelds overall are irrelevant and the PS Vita backs up my point. In fact I even wrote an article on how big of a failure the handheld was and why it failed. In fact it did so bad that Sony ended up writing off a lot of stock iirc. http://gearnuke.com/playstation-vita-fail/ I... never asked to say PSVita is death? I already knew what are you'r thoughs, even just thanks you'r usual jokes of "best selling Vita games this month". Dunno where this part come from. The 3DS has done considerably better in comparison due to the way it was designed, marketed, priced and due to the fact that it had a lot of desirable software initially. But that inital success was short lived and in the last 2 or 3 years we've seen a really sharp decline in HW/SW sales and user engagement. There are a lot of people who may have bought a 3DS but recent data has shown that only a fraction of the install base still use it. Like I've been saying in this thread and before, the usage case for handheld gaming has now been replaced by mobile gaming and that's caused the majority of that audience to shift towards mobile gaming. There are other reasons as well which have caused many in the West to abandon dedicated handheld gaming in favor of Home Console or PC gaming. Add all these reasons up and the obvious conclusion to me is that handheld gaming is no longer relevant and ultimately dead. It may be a strong word to use but I'm only using it to stress the point. So even you considering "death" a strong world. Recent data show that 3DS shipped +7 million in the last two years (and sales are even better, cause it still suffer from overshipments in the firsts years). That's not bad. could not be amazing, but is far from death, or bad. Is just not amazing like selling 12-15 million like one time, but can you really say is so bad? I know i already said this more times, but since you didn't replied to this, those are about XB1 levels. I see many guys saying XBO is doing horrible, death outside USA and bullshit like this, and always like to see you saying those people have not idea of what they are talking about. We both agree here, the situation isn't really good and all, but all considering those are decent sales. Even if when all is well and done it will be half of 360 sales, like 3DS with DS. so, if you don't considering XBO bad and all, why you did it with 3DS? Is really because the decline with the DS, the not really strong software sales reently, or there is others which i don't know? Honest question |
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