BraLoD said:
Yeah, that's why Argentina has 5 world cup finals, they don't deserve even what they got...
You could at least try to understand what I wrote before calling it the top mountain of bollocks you saw on this forum, which is very offensive to be honest, considering the amount of, lets say, not very enlightened stuff, posted around here daily.
England has always been an average team, with no expression whatsoever on world cup aside from that title.
Not the same for France, they did had a boost in the last twenty years and some hand picked really good players as well, have a lot more expression than England, but still not so much as Netherlands and for sure not even close to Argentina, that like you or not, has a phenomenal world expression on football (that's coming from a Brazilian).
England and France are not on the level of being on the select group they are, that could be said about Uruguay nowdays as well, but Uruguay at least had a clear era of being a big guy, in the past.
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It doesn't matter what effect they have on world football as a nation, outright saying that England and France don't deserve the WC wins they have (Which they both thoroughly deserved) is nonsense, no matter what way you spin it. It doesn't matter how many finals you get to or how many times you've come within minutes of actually winning the WC. A win is a win, and when it's done with such outright dominance it's thoroughly deserved.
Do the Netherlands deserve to win one? Sure. As a country they've had even worse luck than England over the years, but they don't deserve one more than someone who actually won the thing fairly and convincingly.
If you're really looking for an undeserved WC win, look at how the WC was won by Argentina in 86.
