Characterizing the Abortion Discussion

[KungKras]

Gourmet said:

If we judge by the offpring's ability to think at the moment of it's "death", it makes absolutely no sense that it should not be killed at a time it's less capable than livestock like pigs, which makes it okay to kill any baby with less than a few years alive. Unless you think it's not okay to kill adult pigs or is some religious bigot to think human minds are more important just because it's human.

If we judge by what the offspring will become in the future, being fecundated is enough to make it illegal. It should not even be 100% okay to masturbate, because of the probability of the gamets becoming a human.

The latter makes more sense to me.

That made me more confused than anything.
What is your position? haha