SHOCK CLAIM: Ukrainian fighter jet shot down Malaysia Airlines' MH17

[Final-Fan]

Sharu said:

Final-Fan said:

I have looked into this, and found information that seems conclusive unless it can be challenged as false. 
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2014/jul/20/john-kerry/kerry-ukrainian-separatist-bragged-social-media/

"We know that a post appeared on Strelkov’s social media profile bragging about shooting down a transport plane close to the MH 17 crash site. In a subsequent post, Strelkov said the information passed along came not from him directly, but from militia members on the scene. He said the information was unofficial and incorrect.

"It’s impossible to know with certainty Strelkov's role in the post, or when the post was pulled, but we do know that the posts come from within the separatist movement -- as Strelkov himself said."

So it was definitely posted by rebel militia.  But the militia (after knowing about MH17) said that the militia members who posted it didn't know what they were talking about.  Extremely suspicious. 

That Strelkov man is very suspitious too. He's out from Donetsk now, and trying to build some patriotic opposition movement in Russia. He was promoted thru the Internet as hell before the incident. After that he flew to Russia. Now some investigations going on against him. 
So to call him a part of Donetsk rebels is a bit wrong.

Do you at least agree that he is anti-Ukrainian?  If so, then you would not expect him to be part of any coverup or helping Ukraine shift its guilt to Russia. 

Anyway, this might be distracting from the other things.  I am interested in your response to the transcript I posted when your Russian sources denied that Ukraine had released their transcript, and I'm also interested to see what you think of the fact that you had been misinformed about the missile identification.