SHOCK CLAIM: Ukrainian fighter jet shot down Malaysia Airlines' MH17

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Sharu said:

This is the press conference of MoD regarding the Boeing. Didn't find it in English yet, maybe you'll be more lucky.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSpeo5RcQQo

Almaz-Antey reports
http://tass.ru/eksperiment-almaz-anteya/videomaterialy/ - videos
http://ria.ru/mh17/20151013/1300992268.html - article with explanations... All in Russian, sorry. Basically, Antey in their report saying that the Boeing was shot down by Buk missile, but its another (older)  type of Buk (9М38) which isn't produced since 1986 and is not on positions in Russian arny since 2011.
Newer type of missiles  9М38М1 will have very different picture of damage on the plane. 
Also they are saying that Buk fired not from area af Snezhnoe, but from Zaroschenskoe. 

Of course, you should take it with a grain of salt as any information nowadays, but thats the report. Antey saying that they give full information to Netherlands investigation team, but they ignored it. 

Whats about 'WAIT WAIT WAIT ARE YOU SERIOUS CHECKIGN THIS AIR TRAFFIC TRANSCRIPT BUSINESS RIGHT NOW'? )))

Also... Official twitter of rebels... Its a fun thing. In fact a lot of strange persons was around Donetsk that days, and very few of them are really represent Donetsk people. 

Regarding USA satellites... I think they've shown the same info as Russian. And the reason they are not shown yet (Russian too!) - is that there's some undercover trade going on on that data.

Good news.  I have found information about this press conference. 
https://www.bellingcat.com/news/uk-and-europe/2015/01/10/su-25-mh17-and-the-problems-with-keeping-a-story-straight/
This article points out that most things in that press conference were provable lies, or otherwise questionable claims, but let's assume that the information about the jet was true.  This is a translation from the article of some of what was said.  You can tell me if they made a mistake. 
"A Ukraine Air Force military jet was detected gaining height, it’s distance from the Malaysian Boeing was 3 to 5km…. The SU-25 fighter jet can gain an altitude of 10km, according to its specification…. It’s equipped with air-to-air R-60 missiles that can hit a target at a distance up to 12km, up to 5km for sure.”
The R-60 missile is a heat-seeking missile that would have hit a completely different part of the plane from where the actual damage was sustained, so we can rule out this as a cause of the damage. 

By the way, the Ukrainians released more radar data than the Russians did (including some raw data instead of just video) and according to the DSB report this seems to indicate only three civilian aircraft in the vicinity.  "There was no evidence of other aircraft, civil or military, in the direct vicinity of flight MH17. According to radar data three other aeroplanes were in Sector 4 of Dnipropetrovsk  Area  Control  Centre at the time of the crash, all commercial air transport category aeroplanes. Two were flying eastbound, one was flying westbound. All were under control of Dnipro  Radar. At 13.20 (15.20 CET) the distance between the closest of these aeroplanes and flight MH17 was 33 km."  In other words, even if one of these planes was military, 33km would be too far away to hit with the type of missile alleged to be on the plane the Russian press conference spoke of.  Also, the radar data that the Russians did release generally agreed with the Ukrainian data. 

As for the air traffic control transcript, we actually do have a transcript available, again courtesy of the DSB report. 
http://onderzoeksraad.nl/uploads/phase-docs/1006/77c9b856be08report-mh17-crash-appendices.pdf
Not sure why you didn't look for this yourself when you were checking what Russia was saying against what the DSB report was saying.  Why didn't you? 



The twitter post ... are you saying that we don't know who was making that post, that we cannot verify that the twitter account belonged to rebels?  I think we probably can. 

As for the missile type, I will check in the report for that too, but I will post this now and edit later, so as to not keep you waiting too much longer. 
PLACEHOLDER FOR MISSILES