Captain America: Civil War – BIG RANT and many plot spoilers inside (you should save your time and money and not see it now)

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JWeinCom said:

Angelus said:

There's a pretty big difference between a single government or organisation, and the fucking United Nations. If Cap is defying the singular interests of Shield, or the US government, the story works. But here he really has the audacity to think he, by himself, and every other superhero by themselves, has better judgement than the United Nations? 

I mean.......lol

And this just after Tony made Ultron, he still tells him in this movie that "the safest hands are our own"

 

Face it, Cap is an imbecile in this movie

First off, the UN isn't exactly a nimble organization.  They only convene every so often, and coordinating people from around 200 different nations is a very very slow process.  Of course you can appoint a small group to controlling the Avengers, but then you run into the same problems as having one organization in control.

In the United Nations, the permanent members of the security council can veto anything.  That means, if either France, England, the United States, Russia, or China disagree with any resolution, boom, it's dead.  So, if all members are in agreement but the US is like, "fuck that, Murica", then the resolution is dead.  So the UN's decision making is not quite the concesus opinion you're making it out to be.

Think about it, Loki's plan from the first Avengers took like, a day to put into action.  The Avengers were able to get there within minutes of the Chitari invasion.  If they took a half an hour more, that's game over man.

We also saw the UN making some pretty calls in this very movie.  Their incompetence allowed Zemo to reawaken the Winter Soldier in the first place. 

You can argue that Cap is wrong, but there is definitely merit in his decision.  Even well intended bureaucracy can be a negative... and that's in our world which doesn't have disguise mesh technology, sleeper agents, mind controlling gems, and superpowers.

Perhaps I'm becoming a bit too old for this, but when Super Heroes, who should be examples, start to act like no authorithy or good reasoning can be positive (and that's exactly the message the movie sent) we go into savagery department. I would expect this from Wolverine, who is not exactly a hero in the regular sense, but not from an icon of suposed decency like Captain America. Diplomacy and talking is always better than violence.