Captain America: Civil War – BIG RANT and many plot spoilers inside (you should save your time and money and not see it now)

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d21lewis said:

archer9234 said:

I'm gonna comment on just your problem with Cap's strength. Cap can fight Spider-Man with relative ease. Both of them are low level strength characters. Parker has issues lifting certain large cars. What gives cap the edge, is the shield. And his martial arts. Plus, cap won't back down. Iron Man's suits, while it's tough, it's pretty fragile. Yeah, you see it fight toe to toe with Hulk. Those type of fights are deceiving. Even with the Hulk Buster. He has to use projectiles. And offensive tactics on him. Stark uses Hulk's dumbness to his advantage. And tries to make sure the suit does not take direct hits.

Stark's suits are pretty useless, if the character isn't dumb. I'll give this example, from the comics. Stark lied to She-Hulk, on who got rid of Hulk, in the Planet Hulk story arc. They got in a fight. Only in two pages, she was ready to kill him. His suits have no way to deal with her, period. Because Shulkie is intelligent. Trainned by Cap America. And has Hulk's power. Change one thing, He's a joke.

That's Stark's problem too. He always likes to think, since he's smart. He can be cocky, in fights. Cap knows this. And uses it.

Here's a movie example. Tony was knocked around by a few cars in IM 1. While he took no damage. His suit wasn't able to absorb the impact, all the time. Cap is stronger than a car, driving at speed. Then you throw the shield, he's fucked. If you want to argue the helicopter scene. The thing he grabbed to hold it down. Would of broke. Before Cap would of gotten tired.

You know he's called the "invincible" iron man, right? When he and cap fought in Civil War, cap didn't stand a chance without cheating because iron man's armor knew all of his moves. Cap had to be rescued.

 

It's been a while since I've watched iron man 1 but didn't he take a shot from a tank? 

Yup. He did. And almost not a scratch. And that was Mach 3!