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hoala said:
JustBeingReal said:

None the less people would see it as that, because it's not comparable to a modern console, but significantly weaker. This set-top box idea, along with a weak tablet that can't run games anywhere near comparable to the competition has no sellable factor about it.

Sony and MS are the competition (regardless of what Nintendo may say), not anything else.

It's weak, it can't do anything gaming related that puts it in an attractive position compared to Sony or Microsoft and people already have devices like Shield or these small Smart boxes, this literally has no point. If Nintendo games were appealing by themselves then Wii U would have sold gangbusters, but that didn't happen. If running classic Nintendo games was a selling point then the Virtual Console would have caused Wii U to blow up in sales, but that hasn't happened.

 

People have been telling you what the negatives of this idea of yours are, it negates none of them, because it's weak technically, it can't even stand on a similar level to XB1 and that's the weaker system compared to PS4, both of which are pretty cheap to make now, hell even the modern 28nm node updates allow for way more chips to be made from a wafer and offer cheap SOCs, that are much more efficient on power consumption compared to XB1 and PS4.

Going with Wii U level hardware will kill NX, even if NX has a handheld that matches Wii U and people could take that on the move, it's not enough and it's certainly not something to base an entirely new platform around, it's the same kind of thing as before, nothing fresh about it, in fact it would just be a stagnant platform, that brings nothing new to the table.

 

What even gave you the notion that this is what NX is?

Can you please give specific examples of rumors that point to this being what NX is?

 

The fact Kimishima and co have been saying this is something fresh and reliable sources have actually said the tech in use is way more powerful than Wii U argues against that level of weak hardware being used in NX.

The Iwata comment about making games more like Apps (similar to how Apple games run on anything) points to a more OS centered gaming platform/ecosystem which Nintendo can then release a variety of different devices to cater to different markets points to your idea not being anything like NX.

 

It's all but confirmed that NX devices are going to be way more capable than beefed up Wii Us, it'll be at least within striking distance of PS4.

Your comparisons between Ratchet & Clank on PS4 and Mario Kart 8 only show how much more capable PS4 is, Ratchet looks like a Pixar movie, MK8 doesn't, while nice, it's not blowing anyone away in the same way R&C is visually and more power allows for way more gameplay possibilities like full weather, dynamic lighting, physics like Uncharted 4, Horizon and Gravity Rush 2, which definitely adds a lot of potential to actual gameplay.

Nintendo trying to limit the processing performance of NX will kill it's appeal, being cheap with old hardware just doesn't appeal to people.

i did already talked about pretty much all that, see my first post in this thread.

I dont think R&C looks much better as Mario Kart (which still is a 60 fps game).

I also dont think gameplay has changed from ps3 to ps4. The ps4 is pretty much still the same gameplay whise with just better graphics (nontheless the gap is alot smaller as between previous generations). 

 

The wii u sold bad because it was expensive and just played nintendo games. My concept will be cheap, play 2x as much nintendo games. Will work.

A ps4 made by nintendo will fail. We already have ps4/xbox one and even pcs to play that kind of game. A fourth competitor is rudunant. Especially when released mid cycle while ps4 and xbox already sold almost 100mio units combined.

Ps4 owner will "wait for the ps5 that will be more powerfull then NX AGAIN.

Xbox Users same.

None Ps4 owners will get the system they can play online togehter with their friends.

NX failed.

 

Nintendos president just confirmed that they wont sell NX at a loss. So powerfull hardware will already most likely not happen.

NX will be portable. The 3ds need to get replaced at the latest ist 2017. Handhelds are stil nintendos power and always was, they will not give up that market.#

A portable device with powerfull hardware will be very expensive. Nintendo wont release a 600$ handheld, their handheld always were cheap.

Not much has changed gameplay-wise console-to-console since the rise of 3D games. Most of the games that game out for the Wii U are nicer looking versions of very similar games that came out for the N64.

If your concept is that doable (it isn't), why even bother making a new console at all? Why not find a way to make the Wii U in a much more cost-effective way, to lower the price and make a handheld version of the Wii U that will play digital versions of Wii U games? Why bother with making a new console with a new processor manufacturer to begin with?

Remember handhelds are only Nintendo's bread and butter because Nintendo were made more or less irrelevant (by comparison to their competition) in the home console arena. They were once king and lost their crown. Nintendo was once THE platform for third party games, now Nintendo fans have settled for them being nice to have.