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Soundwave said:
pokoko said:

PS4 + Xbox One are far, far ahead of the PS3 + Xbox 360.  Like 20M ahead, or so.  You're telling me those are all new gamers?  That because everyone who owned a Wii--and their kids--were all hipsters, none of them has moved on to the PS4?

That doesn't even make sense.

But they're not ahead at all when you factor Wii into the equation and leave Wii U for this gen. Obviously a lot of those gamers have moved on.

If Wii owners were really sticking around in huge numbers then this generation shouldn't have much trouble selling 250+ million consoles, but it's no where close to being on track for that even with very good PS4 sales.

Obviously a lot of Wii owners did not return to console.

Apple/Google are taking those customers, they are the stone wall Nintendo has run into, I'm sure Nintendo would love dearly to go back the days when Sony/MS were the only two they had to worry about.

This generation will probably end up around 180-190 million, though even that will probably be somewhat inflated by PS4 owners double dipping for a PS4.5. But that will be well short of last gen. It's easy enough to see if this hypothesis is true or not -- simply let the generation play out. It will become evident sooner or later.

What are you talking about?  That's almost as much as the Wii + 360 + PS3.  What are you doing?