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Pavolink said:
kitler53 said:

i can't believe you're taking this whole thing as a victory.  the 2016ers arguments where far more correct than the 2017ers.

Pretty sure all of those claiming 2017 were never thinking in november but march. That's why they are spot one and not mad because the 2016 camp is getting 4 months after, unlike november 2017 which is 8 months before.

If we go and look up all the threads with the launch debate, I'm pretty sure we'd find a lot more posts claiming Q3/Q4 2017 than Q1 2017.