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Soundwave on 10 April 2016
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spemanig said:
Soundwave said:

It's a tricky line to walk. I think Nintendo needs to understand one thing here though -- there's a good chance NX fails. And that has nothing to do with how good the system is. It's all about the bad situation Nintendo has put themselves into. No mid-gen released console has ever done well in this business and it's going to be very easy for Sony/MS to take aim at this thing and pound the shit out of it. The GameCube got demolished and the PS2 only had an 18 month headstart, this situation is far more difficult for Nintendo. 

My opinion is they should do everything in their power to move these ports to adding as much value to them as possible. 

If their attitude is going to be "well we're just going to fart out these ports and charge $50-$60 for them, enjoy our new generation" ... it's a poor message to send I think. But hey it's Nintendo, if that's what they think is smart, go right at it. 

No, there's not a good chance the NX fails. That's not how consumer products work. A good product isn't going to fail just because it released in some imaginary timeslot relevant to only the people making consoles. If the NX is what I've been saying it is, and it likely will be, it's going to absolutely dominate gaming when it launches, matching the Wii/DS combined when they came out, but with legs that last. PS4K and XBO (and Vita, poor thing) won't stand a change against that. If the PS4 is Blackberry and the XBO is the sidekick, Nintendo's going to run train launching their first generation iPhone, and console gaming is never going to be the same.

I do think they'll add shit to all of them. They just don't need to. Most people have never played these games, and they're all effectively still new.

Yeah Nintendo fans always think Nintendo's products will be massively successful, reality often brings them back down to life, a good chunk of this board though the Wii U would be a big success too. 

We'll see. 

Even if the situation was reversed and Sony was launching 3 years late ... they probably would be fucked too. I don't care if they had Uncharted 4 and GOW at launch, I don't care if they had great marketing, they would be in very tough. Nintendo is in a bad position because of the terrible Wii U generation, the Dreamcast and GameCube were massive improvements for both companies, but both bombed too because it was far too little, too late. 

Just making a good product is often not good enough. So my perspective is whatever they CAN control, as in making an effort on their game releases to make they're the best they can be rather than what is Nintendo's attitude far too often which is -- we're going to do the bare minimum and that's OK because you should be excited because we're Nintendo, is one that's problematic.