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MDMAlliance said:
Aeolus451 said:

There no such thing as "free" healthcare. Somebody is paying for it. There's pros and cons to both kinds of healthcare. It's actually better for the world if not everyone is conforming to same thing.

I feel like you don't really understand it.  People like arguing against universal health care (or insurance or whatever else you want to brand it) by saying it "isn't free" and phrase it like someone else is paying for others.  What you don't understand is that's how ANY insurance works.  Insurance isn't covering the amount you put in, necessarily.  The reason it works is because not everyone is going to need it.  So actually it IS better if everyone conformed to it, because insurance is about managing risk.  The more people who participate, the cheaper it will be per person.  Having insurance doesn't increase the number of people who NEED medical attention.  It may increase the number of people who go, which can in turn mean more people coming up with less medical issues in the future.

So the last sentence you put there doesn't apply in this case.

Oh yes it does. I was talking about countries. If someone has a rare illness or an illness that's expensive to treat, you're put on a waiting list aka thrown under the bus because the needs of the many outweigh the few. In the US, you can pay to get treated. In other places, you're on a waiting list. If someone wants to get treatment, they can fly to somewhere like the US for it. That's why its better if some countries don't use universal healthcare. Just keep the US out of that.