Hiku said:
jason1637 said:
It would still be idiotic to drop the HW. I cant go much into detail since im on a phone right now but here are some reasons.
MS makes lots of money from xbox live so dropping that and keeping it free on PC is a mistake.
The xb1 is not selling bad its doing like 8ml units a year which may not be as good as the ps4 but still isnt bad at all.
The next console is already in development.
Third party deals they have still last for a few more years.
Pc games and xbox games sell around the same or sometimes the xbox game would sell more. An example of this is fallout 4, the elder scrolls online, cod etc. So whats the point to limit themselves to pc when they can make double the profit on both platforms.
Only 3 huge xbox games have gone to pc. Qb(alan wake was also on PC), Gears UE(gears 1 was released on pc) halo wars 2(rts are better on pc).
Windows store cant compete with steam because the only support its better are from mobile devs and MS, while Steam has much of 3rd party games, and PC exclusives.
Xb1 is still much cheaper than a gaming PC so to a regular consumer who is interested in its exclusives would get the xb1.
The xb1 is the gateway to the living room for MS. Many companies have been trying to get into people's living rooms. Apple with its Apple TV. Valve with its steambox. Amazon with its fire TV.
I still think MS will continue to make xbox hardware for atleast one more generation.
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I don't think anyone is suggesting that the Xbox brand would end. Just that it would become a service. So they could still have a subscription.
Steam has been very successful, and Microsoft have an advantage in that they own the Windows OS. Steam tried to launch their own OS and failed.
Xbox doesn't need to sell bad in order for them to want to invest their money in more lucrative things.
The next console always begins development after a new one is released. That doesn't mean it will take the shape they initially envisioned, or come out at all.
Not sure what third party deals you're talking about, but XB1 will be out for several more years.
Xbox doesn't make double the profit on the games you mentioned. They would only do that if they published the games for PC. However, if Xbox was a service on PC, and people bought games through it, that would be a different matter. Also, they would save billions in costs for R&D and logistics by not making a console, and selling games digitally online instead. So it can definitely be more profitable, even if the games don't sell as much on PC.
I dunno about huge, but many of their exclusives take that route, like Killer Instinct, Titanfall, Dead Rising, Ryse, Fable, and I believe they dropped some strong hints about Halo 5 going to PC around two months ago. We can expect this list to grow in the coming months.
It wouldn't be Windows store, but Xbox store. It's a brand that has strong recognition amount third parties. If MS wants to go for it, they can definitely get PC exclusives as well.
Xb1 is cheaper than a gaming PC, but there's also PS4 for that. MS can always publish games for PS4 is they want, to cater to those gamers.
That thing about gateway to the livingroom didn't really work out too well.
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Well the xbox brand won't really work well as a subscription because if someone wants to get the games they want they just download it on steam. Even though they put their exclusives on there most people will buy a one-month membership and go back to playing online on steam for free. Also there are PC gamers that just play F2P games so they might not be interested in the service. It would be better if they just but their games on steam or on windows store but not in direct competition with steam. Also their Xbox hardware.
Steam is successful but i don't know how MS owning windows is an advantage. Its not like they will force people to use their service.
Actually it kinda does. If the xbox one was selling bad then software would be low so it could cause them to invest more on the PC Xbox app.
Possible.
I was mistaken. http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Daily/Issues/2013/05/22/Marketing-and-Sponsorship/Microsoft-NFL.aspx
But still MS is making a good amount from software sales on Xbox.
Killer instinct releases this year(3 years after xbox launch), dead rising, titanfall are 3rd party exclusives, i dont really know whats up with fable anymore tbh. Also about Halo 5 MS confirmed that it wasnt coming to pc http://n4g.com/news/1809371/microsoft-clarifies-halo-5-not-coming-to-pc
That could work but it would still be hard to compete with steams huge userbase.
MS joined the industry to make sure that Sony doesn't overtake the PC gaming market. I doubt that they would end their hardware to support their competition.
How come?
