Kobe or Lebron?

[Chris Hu]

Cirio said:

Chris Hu said:

Come on now Kobe really isn't a winner the titles he won are mostly due to his supporting cast and great coaching he couldn't even get Malone and Payton a ring and San Antionio defeated the almost identical Pistons team a year later.

Yeah Michael Jordan isn't a winner either because the titles he won are mostly due to his supporting cast and great coaching. 

Same could be said about LeBron.

And Magic.

And everyone else.

Even if think that Kobe is a winner the first three rings are Shaq's.  Jordan was the key player in all the Bulls titles.