| Dulfite said: 3. Then why are there molecules? And why do they function the way they do? It's just an endless lists of questions. Whatever you or someone else may come up with as an explanation of molecules, I'll just ask what the origin behind that is. When it comes down to it, it's incomprehensible. We have no ability to understand it because things get infintetly smaller and smaller and the "building blocks" become made up of other things. People once thought cells were the smallest things, then atoms, then bases, on and on. 4. The difference here is that, and you can look at the scripture I referenced, I accept the fact that I will not understand everything and I am trusting in God to have the answers (faith). Science dictates that we try to solve everything and figure out the reason. I believe, based on my previous comments, that we, as humans, are incapable of fully (or even remotely) understanding why things are in existence instead of there being nothing. Faith allows me to say to myself, "hey, I don't fully get this and I have a lot of questions, but I can rest assured that God is in control." That is why I don't apply the same scrutiny to the idea of creator. 5. And as far as evidence goes, that is something you see a lot more after you become a believer. I have experienced things in my life that I know to be evidence, but attempting to explain those things to people (particularly non believers) can be incredibly difficult. Miracles happen all the time, but there is one that I can look at on a grand scale and it affirms my belief. My own comprehension of my own existence. I am not an instinctual creature like every other organism. I can do things counter to what my instrincts tell me to do. I can think on my own above survival mode. People love dogs and cats and other organisms and think they are part of their family and that they smile and love them, but they don't smile (just the way they look) and they only do things for you (tricks, don't run away, etc) because they know you have the food and you provide comfort to them. If that comfort left or the food ran out, they would leave or try to eat you (depending on what we are talking about). Humans don't do that necessarily. I can choose to starve to death rather than eat something. I can choose to kill myself if I wanted to. I can choose to wait to eat until I decide to, not when my stomach gets hungry. I can choose an infinite amount of options that no other species can do, because they are controlled by instinct and survival mode. That is amazing. The fact that I am self aware is astounding and illogical. Why and how could the universe (if there is no God) have organisms come from matter that can become self aware when the universe itself isn't self aware? How did self awareness even come into being if there is no divine contribution? |
3. You talk about a "why" as if to find someone who motivated the molecules into existence. There is no need for a motivation for them to exist, in order for them to actually exist. That molecules bind with other molecules out of which we get new properties is only a consequence of the action and reaction between them. These building blocks are then formed into larger structures and, sometimes, into cells. What we call life is just a consequence of actions that, by chance, can recreate themselves. We find this to be amazing (myself included) but it is no more amazing than any non-biological matter, only less likely to happen as far as we know. And we constantly seek answers to how everything is constructed from the start and, as you say, has found smaller and smaller particles. So apparently science is the tool that gives ut the best opportunity to find this answer, wouldn´t you agree?
4. I would never give up on knowledge in the way you describe. When we constantly push our own scientific boundaries forward, we can´t, or rather should never, give up on our own intellectuality and just say "I will never seek knowledge, only put my faith into a sky creature created by humans thousands of years ago".
5. Well, if you can´t recreate it, you don´t have evidence of its existence, simple as that. And this whole notion that somethig that isn´t self-aware can´t create something self-aware. Self-awareness is nothing more than a complex chemical and electrical process in our minds and bodies so ofcourse it can exist without a "higher" intelligence behind it. You try to find a reason behind it, and the reason is simple: because chance and laws of nature has formed it.
And I always find it fascinating how so many religious people try to question scientific method by saying "yes, but why do we have molecules" or "well, then who created the universe to begin with", then explains it with a sky god and suddenly turns around and say that we should then not question what created this sky god? So the whole argument revolves around what created what in the world, except for sky god? Well, that´s very convenient then :).
