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Dulfite on 04 February 2016
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the-pi-guy said:
Dulfite said:

We call this cherrypicking, when someone tries to argue against the Bible by taking random verses out of context. The Bible is meant to be read in order, not randomly. But since you found those verses, I'll share what someone else responded to them:

Response: "The claim seems to have an underlying assumption that it is impossible to be "fixed" and "immovable" and yet orbit around the sun. But the fact is, the earth has proven itself to be fixed and immovable:

• The earth is fixed and immovable in relation to its orbit around the sun. Have you ever known the earth to "unfix" itself and "move" itself out of its orbit around the sun? It doesn't happen, because the earth is fixed and immovable in relation to its orbit around the sun.

• The earth also is fixed and immovable in relation to us. There has never been a single day in which we had no place to stand, because the earth unfixed itself and moved itself out from under our feet.

The earth has always been fixed and immovable, both in relation to us and in relation to its orbit around the sun. In fact we've learned to take it for granted that the sun will shine during the day and that there will ground for us to stand on when we awake in the morning.

Having said that, one should at least consider the possibility that the verses cited above are actually using a figure of speech, to express the permanence of God's will and the permanence of his creation."

You've done an excellent job of proving my point.

This is a new interpretation, that's very different from the interpretation that people had in the 1500's.  They read these and took it to mean that the Earth was literally immovable.  Particularly the story of Joshua and the sun.  If you reinterpret it to mean something else, then someone has misunderstood its meaning.  Either you or the vast majority of Christians in the 15th century were wrong about what those passages really mean.  Effectively altered by man into something that isn't true.

The Bible isn't to be changed, but man is sinful. 

I'm fairly certain that people in the 1500's believed that if we jumped, the Earth wouldn't just suddenly disappear, just like people now days believe that. But I'm not going to argue with you. You can believe whatever you want. All I will say is a LOT of people try to convince themselves that the Gospel is false or wrong by trying to points out some flaw and convincing themselves that there is one. There are also a LOT of people that had issues and found that they just didn't understand those issues prior to salvation. With faith in Christ comes understanding. You have to take a leap of faith.