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burninmylight on 02 February 2016
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Nintyfan90 said:
burninmylight said:
Nintyfan90 said:
Soundwave said:
Nintyfan90 said:

Soundwaves proof isn't really proof though. It's much more personal opinion and spin. His ideas of a hanheld, micro console, and pro console are clear fantasy.

 

Everyone's NX concepts here are fantasy unless someone here is claiming to work at Nintendo R&D. 

A $199 portable 3DS-2 with a relatively crap processor + screen and a $299 console that's about a PS4 in power is also "fantasy", but most here think that's what Nintendo will do ... even though this is basically the same thing they did this generation to huge marketshare losses. 

All you did reinforce what I was saying. No proof exist about a 2016 launch besides pr spin. He made it seem like your ideas were coming from some unquestionable source.

 

Wrong. You completely missed the subject (hint: it's in the thread's title). I have never once said Soundwave's theory about what the NX is is right or wrong. It's just a theory at this point, no matter if he states it's his opinion or says it as if it were fact. He knows exactly as much about what it is as you or me.

I have also never said Soundwave is unquestionably correct in his stance about the NX coming in 2016; I've never said that it definitely is or is not either. However, Soundwave, unlike most of those arguing for a 2017 release, is posting sources for his reasoning and presenting them in a detailed, logical manner. He is showing you WHY he believes what he believes. Whether or not you agree, you have to at least respect it, because you have the means to understand why he believes it. Even when I disagree with someone's viewpoints and opinions, I can appreciate them when they show me some reasonable sources and explain them well.

You can call it "pr spin" all you want, but let's see you show us something more substantial. I've been waiting for it, and I'm not so staunch and stubborn that I can't see reasonable proof in the other side's favor. I'm open to anything worth looking into, so show me what you got.

Lol no, all he does is take sources which are mostly pr statements spin or rumors. You clearly believe his sources which is what I was saying. Here I'll give you something more accurate, the last two Gens both headed by Iwata saw a handheld release before home console. GC was the worst selling yet Iwata still chose to release DS and replace GBA which was selling nearly ps2 levels. It safe to say Soundwave doesn't know what he's talking about because he's speaking from a FANS perspective. Wiiu release schedule looks no more worst than any other WiiU year which any nintyfan can tell you, a final year for Ninty looks much worst than the other years. Pokken Tounament isnt some side project from them, it's probably the main poke games home consoles are gonna get. All of that tells me, just because you, Soundwave, or anyone aren't content with WiiU performance, library, or finances doesn't mean shit to Ninty. They will ride with what they have until the time is right.

"Here I'll give you something more accurate, the last two Gens both headed by Iwata saw a handheld release before home console. GC was the worst selling yet Iwata still chose to release DS and replace GBA which was selling nearly ps2 levels"

You may not have been aware of this, but Iwata... isn't running things anymore...

I don't get what this has to do with anything, anyway. If the NX ends up being a hybrid system or a handheld that has a method to play games on a TV when at home, then does it matter that handhelds traditionally launch before consoles? The DS only replaced the GBA after it proved it could carry the torch as a viable handheld successor two years into it's life. Plenty of GBA games were releasing until that point. And the whole reason the DS even launched as early as it did was because Nintendo feared the PSP.

I have said before that it doesn't matter to me whether the NX launches this year or not. If I had my druthers, I probably would have it release next year. I have about 30-40 Wii U games still sitting in shrink wrap or downloaded but not yet played alone, on top of Star Fox Zero preordered and money set aside for both Zeldas and Genei Ibun Roku, not to mention the 30-40 3DS games I have yet to play, the 10 or so DS games I have yet to play, and the half-dozen GBA games I have yet to play. I am one of the proudest Wii U owners on this site, brah. If Nintendo didn't announce another new Wii U game between now and the NX launch, I wouldn't be displeased with the amount of content I have played or will eventually play on it.