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Dulfite on 01 February 2016
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Aeolus451 said:
Dulfite said:
Soundwave said:

Apparently doesn't love you enough or isn't powerful enough to get you out of there. 

This isn't a compassionate being, if a parent did something comparable to a child, we'd call the parent cruel and heartless. 

Also how egotistical or insecure is he that he needs to be constantly worshipped to? Does a parent ask his kids to worship him/her constantly? 

Dude creates the entire cosmos but still needs a pledge of allegiance that only be sanctioned by particular religious sects? Yeah that makes sense. 

 

Your perception is common amongst nonbelivers, but it isn't correct. There are tons of formally non-believers or believers in other religions who had the same arguments as you, yet have turned to Christ or will turn to Christ (you, yourself, may one day do it as well and have a wonderful story to share).

You can't think of God casting people into hell. More realistically, you should view it as people walking into hell on their own accord due to constantly sinning and not accepting the FREE and EASY gift that is Jesus Christ. God is right next to people trying to get them off the path to hell, trying to convince them that HE loves them, and yet there are some/many that just refuse HIM their entire lives. If they had turned towards Christ then they wouldn't be going to hell, it's that simple.

And again, there is nothing stressful about accepting Jesus Christ. I garuntee you, the people most at peace in the world are those who love Jesus. There are trials we go through of ups and downs that helps us grow. After any rough patch we can always cling to our LORD and savior and feel restored and motivated again.

HE doesn't need or require our worship, HE has always existed (unlike humanity). HE wants us to love HIM and HE wants to love us. HE cares deeply for us and wants us to have a truly wonderful existence:

Revelation 21:3-4 And I heard a loud voice from the throne, saying, "Behold, the tabernacle of God is among men, and He will dwell among them, and they shall be His people, and God Himself will be among them, 4and He will wipe away every tear from their eyes; and there will no longer be any death; there will no longer be any mourning, or crying, or pain; the first things have passed away."

This is not the description of an egotistical god who wants people to pledge their alleigence to him. God wants to spend eternity LOVING us, but the devil and mankind itself has done an amazing job at convincing non-believers that God is just full of himself, that is until they realize the truth and turn to Christ like so many have and so many more will. I hope one day you will realize this and accept Jesus as your savior so that you too can have the free gift of life.

 

If god just wanted to love us and us love him, there would be no point in sending humans to hell. No parent would punish their child with everlasting damnation and torture for not having a relationship with 'em or for not obeying 'em. We were given life on earth to prove ourselves worthy to god otherwise why would he pull that shit he did with Job? It has nothing do with love.

As for lucifer, he's an unruly employee of god whose sole job is to tempt people into sinning or straying from god. Lucifer has no power of his own, every bit of his supposed power is granted by god. God uses temptation and Lucifer to test our "faith" in him and if we will give into our weaknesses. The price of failing that test after you die is ultimately hell where you tortured for all time. Again, it has nothing to do with love.

God does not use Lucifer like that. The book of Job clearly shows that lucifer himself wants to persuade people away from God. I would encourage you to read this article. I didn't read the entire thing, but the stuff I did read was accurate and is too lengthy to copy/paste into this thread so here you go:

 

here 

And again, humans are the ones rejecting the hand of Christ. You can't say God is sending people to hell. Anyone who desires to be saved in Jesus Christ can be in this life. Those who don't wish to be saved by Jesus Christ are not forced to be. Regardless of what you believe now, there is no changing the eternal truth that God loves you and desires you.