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Soundwave said:
Darwinianevolution said:
Soundwave said:
I feel like we've had this same discussion before, but if Nintendo can get a 500 GFLOP range portable at a reasonable price (and I think this is doable) ... they should go for it.

That's their best ticket for success in the coming generation, if they have a powerful portable it will see a lot of developer support from the get go.

The console/dock/companion/whatever other version can then just be your basic PS4+ in horsepower and they both share games, that's probably their best bet this generation. I would probably suggest a few other things but roughly I think unless they have a *miracle* controller again that they have actually product tested with real/normal people and it's blowing people's socks off ... then sure build a system around the controller. But if you don't have that, then a unified platform with a strong portable that takes advantage of the radical leaps in modern portable tech would be it.



I agree, the handheld part of the ecosystem will be the key for its success. If they can pull it off, japanese support will be guaranteed, and with that, enough 3rd party support for the first year or two. And because the NX handheld will be the only 9th gen handheld in Japan (I have no idea if Sony will keep the Vita around that much), it would have a relative monopoly on the best market for handhelds. That alone is a big success. Imagine if they can push a lot of JRPGs from the 7th-8th gen on a handheld, Japan would be all over that. If big JRPGs like Persona 5, Tales of X or Final Fantasy XV target mainly the japanese demographic, and the handheld is capable of running a tweak version of the game, it would be the platform of choice.

Western developers would only start appearing after the numbers are confirmed, and even then I don't see massive support (or even Wii-like support, mostly AA titles, old ports and shovelware).

I would have released the home console earlier and let the handheld half a year more of developement to guarantee that, but it seems the handheld will release first. I hope it's powerful enough.

 

I'll basically put it like this ... if they have a *portable* system that can run a game like Final Fantasy XV at 960x540 at 30 fps (a few dips here and there) ... they are in fucking business. Japanese developers are going to fall over themselves to support that thing and even a lot of the games that skip the 3DS will be there and have a good amount of Western developers will be willing to support it if it can even sell 75% of what the 3DS has.

But I think the mobile tech is here already, the A9X is powerful but even by fall 2016 that will be replaced by the A10X which is probably going to be a PowerVR GT7900 (or gulp ... even beyond that) or equivalent which is like 800 GFLOPS, when you're here, PS4/XB1 ports are not only possible but probably fairly easy and it's not like these chips are as expensive as people think. The Tegra X1 successor is likely due in the 2nd half this year too. 

I still think that, aside from the big AAA japanese games, one of the best early supporters of the NX will be the small studios than supported the Vita. Those games are made already, and there is no reason to not port them to a Nintendo handheld that will be more powerful than the Vita and will definitively have a bigger userbase (just Pokemon, MarioKart, Fire Emblem, and 3rd parties like YW and MH will guarantee that). Ports of those games might be cheap and will sell well enough to justify the cost. And without no other handheld around, they either go to mobile and compete with that market, or go to the NX early and try to sell their games before the big guys appear.





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