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Soundwave on 24 January 2016
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Wyrdness said:
Soundwave said:
Wyrdness said:

What excuse those are reasons as to why which you haven't countered with any point, count the number of casual and non gamer specific titles released on both 3DS and Wii U, you won't even come close to what either the DS or Wii would put out in a year instead you're bsing yourself in cherry picking the few slim pickings that Nintendo offered to cater to them.

Casuals never got tired of them Nintendo stopped focusing on them, Wii collapsed because Nintendo pulled the plug on it not because of the audience.

 

Actually the Wii U had probably more casual titles in its first year than the Wii even did. Wii had Zelda, Metroid, Mario Galaxy, Paper Mario, Fire Emblem and other more traditional Nintendo IP in year 1, with Wii Sports, Mario Party, and Wario Ware Wii as pure party/casual games.

Wii U had Nintendo Land, NSMBU, Sing Party, Wii Fit U, Wii Sports Club, Mario & Sonic Olympics, and Wii Party U all within the first 12 months and only Mario 3D World, Pikmin 3, and W101 as its "hardcore" new games. 

Why is it so hard for some people to accept that the Wii audience would rather pay $0 instead of $50 to get their gaming fix? Is it really that unbelievable? 

If you gave me free soda that was good enough quality by my standards tomorrow you think I'd ever pay for Coca-Cola again? 

Wii was also almost half the price of the Wii U at £179 and wasn't mistaken for an add on and had actual marketing, the are many factors you and others are ignoring to try and entertain this notion of the Wii audience, maybe because it makes you lot feel better or maybe you're trying to put yourselves on a higher pedestal. After the first year of the Wii U what was there for casuals and non-gamers, hardly anything, you're lying to yourself if you think 3DW, W101, Pikmin 3 would appeal to them that's the same mistake Nintendo made.

This crowd didn't move on because they're a bad crowd they moved on because Nintendo mishandled the situation and made mistakes, it may scare you and others in the core group to accept this but that's what it comes down to, that crowd are still around and as active as ever. The amount of Wii and DS games that cater to this crowd blows the 3DS and Wii U out the water even if you just compare both the latter to one.

 

Wii U is now basically the same price as the Wii's $250 price factoring in inflation and has been for a while. And Wii U comes with 2 free games instead of 1. Still no bump in sales. 

The crowd isn't "bad". The way I've looked at this is like at a nightclub lets say a super hot girl dances with you and has a few drinks with you. She friends you on Facebook and maybe goes out to Dennys after the club with you. 

It doesn't mean she was ever going to be your girlfriend or wanted to marry you or something ridiculous like that. She just thought you were the "fun guy" for one night, that's all that was. 

She moved on to someone else the next week ... because that's what the hot girl does. And there's nothing wrong with that. She's at the club to have a good time, not to find a husband, if anything the guy who thinks she should be with him is the asshole for not understanding that. 

On top of the cost issue again ... why pay for something when something else scratches the same itch for free? 

Nintendo and third parties aren't making these games anymore because no one is buying them, they know they can't compete against smart gaming. 

And sure that crowd is around ... this weekend alone I've seen more commercials for Mobile Strike and Clash of Clans than I have see Nintendo, Sony, and MS game commercials the last six months combined. Casual gaming is like 10x bigger today thanks to Apple and Google driving it forward, not Nintendo and XBox.