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zorg1000 said:How well Playstation devices sell is irrelevant to our discussion, we are talking about Nintendo now compared to previous Nintendo generations in which case things like price & marketing are certainly potential factors for a 20% decline.

But the end result is the same; less people are buying Nintendo games/systems, less people are playing Nintendo games/systems.

Nintendo games still sell great to their established audience, but that audience is smaller now than in previous generations.