What if Nintendo Doesn't Comeback?

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naruball said:

wombat123 said:

Yup.  Marketing was just one of the things that went wrong with the Wii U.  This entire gen (3DS/Wii U) was a case of Nintendo falling because of their hubris -- especially with the Wii U.  They just expected people to buy a weak console with an expensive gimmick along with no advertising or games based solely on the 'Wii' brand.  They were so confident in the 'Wii' name selling it that it almost looked like they just sent the console out there to die.  If anything can be salvaged from this gen, Nintendo probably learned a large lesson in humility and hopefully won't make the same mistakes with the NX.

Interestingly enough, that's not the reaction we got here on vgc. The wiiu won most polls that asked users which console they are planning on buying or which console will win the console race. They said that a 3d Mario game will do the trick. If not, definitely a 2d Mario. You just wait for Mario Kart, etc. Then people started blaming marketing and will do again, if NX fails.

I couldn't disagree more. The wiiu was destined to fail and anyone who was not a fan could see it. Mario Kart wii didn't seel 30m+ because of its insane popularity. It was a big franchise but a whole lot of its sales came from the installbase. Ninty IPs sell consoles, just not as many as Ninty or its fans would like to. I see no way Ninty can win a home console generation unless the come up with something innovative/a gimmick. As much as people try to deny it, Ninty/Sony/MS IPs are not enough for a console to become successful. Plus since the xb360 gneration, people are less likely to lose their achievements/trophies and move to a new system. I don't see how Ninty can make a comeback no matter what. Games like Splatoon are not enough and wiiu hardware sales clearly show that.

 

There were two problems with Wii U, still is, and everyone really can see it: the obvious lack of interesting games and the price of the hardware. Things might have been different if there had been the Premium with the gamepad for 349, and Basic without the gamepad for 199. Both coming with a game.

Mario Kart Wii did benefit from the large installbase, but it likely sold millions of consoles. The problem is, that just by looking all the games as single games, we end up in conclusion that all the games sold what they did because of the installbase. The first party IP's are well enough, as long as they're the right type and do not feel rushed. There's no "Wii U Sports" on Wii U, no Metroid, 3D Mario or Zelda for the core Nintendo fan. There's recycled 2D Mario and Wii Fit U, with a 3D Mario spinoff - and that's pretty much all there was before Mario Kart 8 was released.