nuckles87 said:
You do know that none of those books are canon anymore, right? Only the movies and television shows are even relevant here.
We have two movies worth of protagonists who started out being able to utilize the force with minimal to no training. That's what's relevant here.
I'll repeat something I said earlier, but add a few important words: IN THE CONTEXT OF THE MOVIES, the force has always been this vague, mysterious, mystical power. It's not a martial art. It's not something you need education to attain. It is a gift. A super power. The training that jedi receive isn't to attain this gift, but to master it.
Anakin was using the force to podrace, guess jedi flash cards, and fly a starfighter into orbit and accidentally explode a droid control ship before he received a single lesson on how to utilize the force from anyone. Luke Skywalker was simply told to "use his feelings" and all of a sudden he was blocking lasers with a lightsaber and making impossible shots that veteran pilots couldn't make to explode the Death Star. The next movie he was using telekinesis on his lightsaber, with absolutely NO additional training from a jedi master, nor any onscreen training or mention of it happening off screen. It's just...a power he has now. Because he's a goddamn Skywalker, and they can just do this crap.
Rey, at worst, just demonstrated that you don't need special instruction to manipulate a brainwashed stormtrooper's brain (at least, providing the force is super with you, like Anakin, Luke, or Rey). Just like Anakin didn't need training for his jedi reflexes and flash card reading skills and Luke was able to block laser blasts with a lightsaber, manipulate torpedoes into a 90 degree turn into a shaft, fly a space craft in a dogfight against military trained pilots, or force grab a lightsaber. And heck, while I'm editing this: how DID Luke learn how to use force suggest by RotJ anyway? I don't remember Yoda teaching him that. Yoda's training was mostly philosophical.
Edit: Hey! Hey. The EU had some neat stuff. At the very least I wish KOTOR had been officially kept canon. But yeah, it could also be kind of a mess. Like, I used to love reading Star Wars encyclopedia book and wiki entries back in the day, and even the deep history stuff could be contradictory.
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