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zorg1000 said:
Soundwave said:

 

They need to just give this a rest. Casual gamers are casual for a reason, they don't want to sit around playing hours and hours of games, this is not even appealling to them. 

Make games for set audiences, the industry has grown and evolved past this, people have different tastes. Stop trying to argue against them. 

The industry isn't something that needs a savior that Nintendo needs to swoop in rescue, more people play games today than in the 80s/90s/or 2000s on a daily basis and are happy to do so because they have specific hardware options that meet their specific needs. And that's a *good* thing. 

 

Nobody has to sit and play for hours on end, I refuse to believe that the market of millions upon millions of people who enjoyed sitting down and playing light hearted, simple games together as a family or group of friends just vanished.

 

They didn't vanish. As a matter of fact they probably play more today than ever before, because of a very convienant, free option they have today. 

The problem that you have with this is it's not Nintendo playing white knight rescuing these people. They don't need rescuing, Apple and Google already beat Nintendo to the punch. 

Nintendo honestly blew it with this audience. They haven't a true new mass-market break out casual hit game since when? Wii Fit in 2008? This is eight years ago now. Wii Music was a dud and so was Nintendo Land, neither or these became big hits, and Wii Fit and Sports basically fizzled out by the time the Wii U rolled around. 

Some of these kids playing smartphone games today weren't even born when Wii Fit came out. Nintendo has done dick all since then, several huge casual/family gaming phenomenons have been birthed since then -- Angry Birds, Clash of Clans, Words With Friends, Plants VS. Zombies, Candy Crush, etc. etc. it's just none of these are made by Nintendo. Also do you notice something here? All/most of the smartphone blockbusters ARE light-hearted, fun, often times cartoony games. The smartphone market is dominated by cartoony/friendly looking games, not realistic graphic type hits. 

There's been more new original IP of the casual/friendly nature birthed in the last 5 years than maybe in any point in gaming history. I take it the rub then really is the sour grapes that it's not Nintendo the one that's doing it. But that doesn't make any difference to the 40 year old soccer mom who's having a blast with Candy Crush.