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Soundwave on 04 January 2016
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Nem said:
Soundwave said:
Nem said:
 

 

And where did i say development wasnt under way? What i say is that your time table on a next-gen home console releasing later this year is foolhardy at best.

Wii U support will keep going this year and will most likely slowly die out in the next. Is this a surprise? Thats what is normal to happen. Also, stop assuming Nintendo is a powerhouse that can develop multiple HD titles in the same year without external help, because they arent. They are big, but they don't make miracles. 8 games at best with external help. 4 already announced for the Wii U, one other rumored. The writing is in the walls. Just remember how it was back on the Wii to Wii U transition. They don't grow games and development teams in trees.

If the main Nintendo teams are working on NX projects, and they would have to be to ensure a good launch + good first 18 months on the market (which is crucial) they can't be working on Wii U projects. 

To me it's really that simple. The moment NX projects start rolling at the major Nintendo dev teams, is the moment the Wii U effectively becomes a second class citizen in the Nintendo-sphere. It got its Mario Kart, Smash, Mario 3D World, Bayonetta, and Splatoon, time to be happy with that and accept that the rest of the cycle will be lower-tier farmed out spin-offs/side projects. 

 

I'm starting to wonder what you mean by "main". If by  main you mean, 3D mario team, mario Kart tema and retro are working on projects for new systems. Yes, i find that likely, though obviously theres no certainty. So, i am not really contradicting that.

Are there team that have ongoing Wii U projects or co-developed projects in the works for the Wii U? I'm pretty sure there still are.

I do agree, the moment a new home console is starting up, the Wii U wont see many more releases. This is what i just said. Its repetition here. But, no i don't think a next-gen console is coming out later this year. Very, very unprobable.

Yeah but that's the thing, even if console was coming out in 2017, development has to be underway. We're already into 2016, their main dev teams cannot be stuck working on Wii U project, because that means they won't be finished until what? Mid-2016 at the earliest? That means those teams cannot give you NX console product until 2018, maybe even 2019 at the earliest. 

And portable has be waaaaaaay underway. 

Portable games don't magically make themselves, they will probably require the same resources as any Wii U game going forward. 

I just don't see how they can have very much Wii U product in the pipeline, they just don't have the man power.

To make a portable launch window in late 2016, that means IMO the majority of Nintendo's big dev teams have been working on that platform probably since 2014 actually. Which means those teams (Retro, EAD Tokyo, Animal Crossing team, Sakamoto's SPD group, etc most likely), in fact must be well over half way finished their launch portable titles *right now*.  

And then you would have to *on top of this* have console NX projects starting roughly about last fall (no way you can make fall 2017 otherwise). There's just no way Wii U fits into this equation in any serious way. Maybe it will get a couple of projects and they gut it out and finish Zelda for it (which IMO will be multi-plat) ... but that's about it. 

Things like Twilight Princess HD and Pokken Tournament are just there to pad out the stretch before Nintendo completely abandons the thing.