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Soundwave on 03 January 2016
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Nem said:
Hiku said:
Nem said:

I applaud you for beeing one of the few that still thinks, rather than just go with the flow. People in the internet already unilaterally decided that the NX is a new home console, more powerful than the PS4 and coming out in late 2016... with no evidence.

Yeah, its as unrealistic as it comes, but alas, they refuse to listen to reason.

How is Reggie saying that they've already publicly announced that they're hard at work on their next home console, not any evidence of a console?
There is a home console coming. That's a fact. Doesn't matter what it ends up being called, the fact that Nintendo already publicly talked about it means it's coming sooner rather than later.
Sony, Nintendo and MS all start R&D for their next console as soon as they release one, but they never publicaly talk about it until it's closer to release. Even when Sony went out to get developer's feedback for PS4, to see what kind of hardware they'd like, they blatently denied that it was for PS4, even though it was obvious to the devs. That's just how it works.

And feel free to point out where I'm not thinking here: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=7627167

I've done plenty of thinking about this. Probably more than most people here, seeing as I haven't seen anyone else compile a post of breaking down the situation as thourooughly as I did.
The "more powerful than PS4" argument isn't backed by any evidence though. But don't pool that together with everything else.

Nintendo also launched GBA and Gamecube in 2001.
If there are two versions of NX, they may be released in two different time frames. But that WiiU would last until end of 2017 is looking very unrealistic.

 

Oh please... Sony is hard at work on the PS5. R&D is done years in advance as you yourself admited. How can you conclude from that that a new home console is coming this year?

There is a home console, but its not coming this year. The Wii U is only 3 years old. The 3DS is needing replacement before the Wii U. Besides the fact that Nintendo's president said that the NX is not the sucessor to the Wii and Wii U. In another thread i was beeing told how we should assume he is lieing. Its all very forceful.

Actually, you can work this out just by the fact that it would be imposible to have a launch line-up ready for this year. Then we get more forceful sugestions of imediate ports of Wii U games releasing this year. I run out of adjectives to classify the idea. Remember that a sucessor to the 3DS needs software aswell and that the president also said they will keep supporting the Wii U.

 

But, no... its a new-gen system for yesterday with no-games. Go Nintendo! The path to glory!

There will be plenty of games for it. It's why the Wii U doesn't have a real Animal Crossing, or a new Mario, and Nintendo has phased out software development for the Wii U in a real way. 

If they seriously were planning to support the Wii U heavily in 2016/2017, you would have seen new 2016 projects for it during that November Direct at the very least, but again, nothing new to show whatsoever in a big way. 

It's kinda obvious anyway that Nintendo cannot support a discreet handheld and a discreet home console any longer anyway. So NX is very likely a shared library platform to a large extent. 

What I think it will be is the main Nintendo games (your Splatoon 2s, Animal Crossing Nexts, Super Mario Galaxy 3s, Mario Kart 9s, etc.) will be playable on both the NX handheld(s) and home console(s). The home console may have the bonus of being powerful enough on top of that to also handle high end third party ports, and that'll be the difference between the two more or less. 

Nintendo can't support two high-end systems (effectively) at the same time any longer, they can't really even do it with the Wii U and 3DS as is, going next-generation and bumping each one up a generation makes it impossible. It doesn't matter when the console releases and the handheld release, they can't support both at the same time. 

So effectively in that sense it doesn't really matter which NX device launches first. Once NX launches, it's curtains for the Wii U/3DS mostly. 

Doesn't matter if its a portable, home console, both or whatever. Even if we follow the logic that Nintendo will simply just make straight forward new platforms that are predictably in line, that means the next portable would be close in power to the Wii U. That means it will pretty much suck up all of Nintendo's dev resources as they certainly are going to throw everything and the kitchen sink at it early on just like they did with the 3DS, except the development resources to make a portable NX game will far higher than 3DS games.