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Soundwave on 01 January 2016
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thismeintiel said:
Soundwave said:
thismeintiel said:
I think we have pretty much figured out what the NX is with all the info leaked. It's a home console that has a port for the handheld and when connected the home console gets a boost in power. Or it may be a handheld that sits on a stand, which connects it to the TV and provides the handheld with more power. Either way. pretty much the same thing.

The only thing we don't know is if Nintendo will supply them together or separate. If separate, there's a real chance one would do better than the other, kinda defeating the point, though it would allow them to more power in both devices. I have a feeling, though, that Nintendo is going to try to package them together, which is good and bad.

For the good, it allows them to offer the experience they want to and doesn't divide the base among those who have both and those who only have one. For the bad, it means they are going to have to keep the power to levels that probably match the XBO, maybe less, when the devices are combined, to keep prices down. That's going to lead to a lack of interest from core gamers, who will want a more powerful device than they have now. It will also lead to a similar situation the Wii U is in in terms of 3rd party support. In other words, it'll be supported for the first couple of years, since it'll be decently easy to port PS4/XBO games to it, but once PS5 and XBT hit shelves that support will start to dwindle.

 

They already patented supplemental hardware add-ons. Methinks they already have thought through the "PS5 + XB2 will be more powerful" thing. 

Personally I think NX will change the idea of the traditional home/portable platform, in a similar way to how the Wii threw out a lot of common "rules" for the traditional controller to create something new. 

NX I think will be a family of products, and also that "same spec for 5 years" will be thrown out the window too, it'll be a STEAM-like service, where you can play your games on various different types of hardware at different settings. 

@ bold

In other words, it changes nothing, since next gen gamers choose to go back to tried and true?

Also, I highly doubt they will be adding upgrades in HW.  If they do, it will fail, as that puts it closer to PC gaming, something console gamers DO NOT want.  A console gamer wants set HW that lasts them through a generation, at which point they will upgrade for ~$399.  Adding HW upgrades will cause confusion and further split the base.  It will also piss off a lot of original purchasers as the $299-$399 piece of tech they just bought a year or 2 ago won't play any newer game unless they purchase a $100-$200 addon that will get the NX a little closer to PS5.

In truth, Nintendo would have been much better served just focusing on a decently powerful HH that they could sell for $199, since they rule a shrinking HH market.  Focus on your strengths, try to regrow HH gaming.  Not try to compete in a market you have lost 3 out of 4 times in the last 20 years.  Cause the Wii thing isn't happening, again.  Most of the casuals that the Wii brought in are gone and mostly core gamers are left, and they have demonstrated time and time again that they aren't really interested in what Nintendo has to offer.  Especially since the new MO is for them to put out underpowered HW with gimmicks to try to push sales.

 

We don't know if gamers want it or not.

Just because Sega tried something in the 90s, when the market was 80% little boys who relied on their mom/dad to buy them every game system (ergo, a hardware upgrade was catastropic because you many kids couldn't get the new system immediately). 

Today, we live in a culture of upgradable electronics that meet our specific needs. And gaming has a much older audience, even with Nintendo I would say honestly their core buyer base today is ADULTS who grew up on their product in the 80s/90s/early 2000s. I've never seen a kid buying an Amiibo for example, it's all 25-35 year old men. It's time for someone else to try something new anyway, why not Nintendo. There's no point in adhering to rules if they don't benefit you. 

HH gaming is a harder task to regrow. Honestly compared to Apple/Android, Playstation/XBox are smaller potatoes and easier to compete against. MS is not very strong in the gaming business outside of the US period, and Sony is no longer the massive corporation they were in the 90s, they are saddled with massive debt and most of their divisions are losing money. 

Nintendo can compete easier with them than Apple, which has more money than many countries, or the Android juggernaut. Or perhaps they may want to look into an alliance with Microsoft. I think it they were willing to accept using the Windows OS, MS could be wooed with that as a starting point for a deal.