The Force Awakens sucks! *MAJOR SPOILERS*

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DakonBlackblade said:

amp316 said:

Anakin had 0 conflicts going on during his fight with Dooku.  I must have imagined that part where Padme fell out of that low flying craft into the desert and demanded for them to go back because he thought that she might have died.  He also didn't show a lot of anger toward Dooku for all of the of the Jedi that she killed.  Yoda also implied that Leia was their last hope to Obi-Wan when he said that Luke was.  Also, Vader though tthat she was powerful enough to turn her to the Dark Side if Luke wouldn't do so.  Am I misremembering anything?

Yeah, Rey could fight with a staff on Jakku and even if that does equal lightsaber training as you suggest, how can she do a force pull without training?  A mind trick?  Read minds?  Be the best star pilot in the galaxy?  Know more about the Falcon than Han?  What's the point of watching the next film?  She's already the best at everything.  I'll tell you my reason for watching it.  Because I've been a fan of this series for almost 40 years and I hope that the next one is better.  It can't get much worse.

 

Anakin was angry at that duel (he was angry quite often) anger is good for the dark side, he always taped into the dark side even when he dindt realy know, so if anything he was more powerfull. Kylo was a mess, he was not sure how he felt, specialy cause he believed killing Ham would solve all his problems, and its very clear in Adam Drivers eyes when Ham touches his face it didnt. He keeps hititng himself to feel pain and try to harness that, and it is only exactly after hitting his wound that he force pushes Rey into the tree, than he does nothing else that require force mastery.

Theres 1 million things implied about Leia, it was never made clear if she coudlve been a jedi, as soon as Luke comes into the picture everyone goes, ye no that kid has the Force in spades, lets just forget about Leia being the last hope and all that.

It equals trainig in hand to hand combat, and Rey fights kinda badly with that lightsber, she stats and swing in arcs, kinda like you would fight with a staff, she also gets owned by a screwed up Kylo Ren during 80% of the fight, its only on the very end that she ahs the uper hand (and even during that outburst shes still stabing and swinging in arcs, shes just doing it much faster).  She doesnt read minds, she resists Kylos mind read and it backfires on him. Force pull is the basic of the basic. The only problem I see is the mind trick, that is too specific to just try (even tough in recent material it has been made relatively easy to pull, with Ezra and Ashoka learnign it very fast at a very young age). Possible explanations arethat the lightsaber imprinted some knowledge into her (it defiently did that, now to wich extent is up in the air), or that she did have training under Luke when he stabilished the New Order and Luke or someone took her to jakku to hide her there once Kylo screwed everything, or that she learned some stuff from when she was in Kylos mind, one of the multipl force spirits (Obywan, Yodda or Anakin for instance - she does hear all fo theyre voices during the vision sequence) were guiding her, or she simply tried stuff she learned from the jedis legends (this one is a bad explanation but one noetheless). If comes Ep VIII the oficial explanation is the one that she just tried stuff she hear the jedi could do and it worked cause she had awoken to the Force and she is that strong, its gona be meh but it does make sense.

 

Also a lot of the complains that why would I watch the other, she knows everything is not taking into consideration she was doing stuff as spurs of the moments, she wil now be faced with the burden of having to save the galaxy, maybe even having to convince Luke to go out of hiding, self doubts, the pull of the dark side, fear etc this all comes now.

Kylo wasn't sure how he felt?  He betrayed Luke, destroyed his temple, started the Knights of Ren, led the First Order's army, killed lord knows how many members of the Resistance, impaled Han on his lightsaber, and thought that he might still be kind of a nice guy?  

Yeah, let's forget all of the facts that I brought up about Leia that you want to ignore.  Obviously she's force sensitive.

Sorry, but Rey does read Kylo's mind when he tries to read hers...  The rest of your argument comes down to this might have happened of that might have happened.  It will be explained in the next movie.  That's the problem.  The original Star Wars would have been a great standalone movie if there never was a sequel.  This, would have not.  Also, I BET that several of the questions that I am asking will NEVER be answered.  Sorry, but this is crappy story telling.