The Force Awakens sucks! *MAJOR SPOILERS*

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DakonBlackblade said:

amp316 said:

And there you have it.  You just admitted that this film isn't for the real fans (comic book nerds as you call them), but for the general public. 

Oh, and please give me a quote from the new movie.  Maybe a joke by Finn?  Those were hilarious, huh?  Cool non-nerds love that stuff.  Indestructible women that can do everything and anything without effort or even a bit of struggle are hip too.  It's a sign of the times I guess...  I'm far to dorky get it or this super cool movie filled to brim with pure unadulterated awesomeness.  Time to make sure that my first issue of The New Mutants is still in mint condition.

Nope he said this film is for everyone, everyone includes fan. You can enjoy the movie if you allow yourself to, but youre too caught up in the fact that Rey is a powerfull jedi. Super powerfull male characters have been plentyfull and no one have problems with them, Swazeneger is one on every movie he ever made and he isnt even a jedi, but Rey somehow is a problem, even tough she clearly has training in hand to hand combat and lived 20 years alone in a planet full of criminals where she either learned to figth and fend for herlself or died, and its still up in the air if she has or has not ever had jedi training.

And amongst the 92% viewer aproval this movie have Im pretty sure theres millions of handcore fans (me included) that read books, comics, watch the animated series and some even like the prequels a bit. JJ Abrahms put the franchise back on track, now Ep VIII is free to go wherever it like, it recaptured the spirit of what made Srar Wars great, gave us awesome characters and an interesting story that still has a lot to give.

And I can give you at least 1 quote: "you will remove these restraints and leave this cell with the door open". "Ill tighten those restraints you rebel scum!!!"

I don't have a problem with Rey being the main character or that a woman can be an all powerful Jedi.  Don't get it twisted.  What I do have a problem with is that she learns how to do a force push, move objects using the force and weild a lightsaber to the extent that she can beat down the man that destroyed Luke Skywalker's temple and forced him to flee without any training. Also, she knows more than Han Solo does about the Millennium Falcon...  Rey could have been great if she learned how to do these things over the course of three movies through trials and tribulations, but that would take actual character development and storytelling.  The fast food culture that wants everything NOW gets what they want.   She touches a lightsaber and already is all powerful and perfect.  I can't wait until she beats down Luke on Dagobah or wherever they are during training.  Why does she even need training?  She already made the villain look like a bitch until that earthquake split the ground in between them.  What a lucky thing to happen for Kylo...