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potato_hamster on 07 December 2015
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Miyamotoo said:
potato_hamster said:
Miyamotoo said:
potato_hamster said:


Care to explain to me how if Nintendo's next home and handheld consoles

a) share a similar architecture making porting games from one console to the other easier
b) shares a similar operating system that makes inter-console multiplayer easier to implement
c) are marketed as differerent platforms, with different games in different packaging.


That all the statements you listed above by Nintendo will not be technically true? Nintendo is giving you an inch and you're assuming a mile.

And again look at the patents of previous consoles. Just look at the patents Nintendo put out two years before the Wii U. I bet you'd be shocked how many of them have absolutely nothing to do with what the Wii U became even if they looked like really cool features that the Wii U totally should feature based on the things Nintendo said about it leading up to its announcement. Ohh well. That's irrelevant I guess.

I really don't understand what you trying to say, but:

a) Yes, NX home and handheld will have same or very similar architecture. Not just because porting, I think they will develop one game in same time for handheld and home console.

b) Not similar, same OS for NX console and handheld, same like multiply different devices are having iOS or Apple OS and same like they sharing same apps and games.

c) No, it will not be marketed like different platforms, it will probably be marketing like one platform with different devices that have different capabilities but that are playing same games.

My assumings are based on things Nintendo gave us or based on rumorus about NX.

Again, huge difference from previous Nintendo patents before Wii U, is that this patents are basically what Nintendo talked about new consoles and platforms.

Ohh really? So all iPad games are on the iPhone and vice versa? Ohh right. No they're not. Developers actually have to put extra, significant amounts of work in to make their game compatible on both the iPad and iPhone. So there's that. The NX could emulate the iOS marketplace almost exactly and they could still have seperate games for seperate devices in seperate packages and not be compatible with one another. It happens on iOS devices all the time.

Here's the thing you keep failing to understand. You quite literally do not know what the NX will be. You do not. You have a couple vague sentences from marketers and you're twisting that into an extact vision of what the platform is and how it will operate. You do not know that. You have absolutely no idea, and yet here you are confident you know exactly what it will be. You acting like patents are an indicator of the direction a company is heading, and it's totally different from the WIi U and NX in terms of how their patents relate to real-world products when you literally have zero tangible evidence of what the NX will be. The patents Nitendo has made of late could be less relevant to the NX as the patents Nintendo made in the year or two before the Wii U was released and you have absolutely no way to prove that argument is correct at this time.

You have no idea what the NX will be. There is no reason for you to be as confident as you are. None.

Yes, 90% of same games and apps are working on iPad and on iPhone. Devolpers need to put extra work to make game compabitible with iPad and iPhone, but that extra work is much smaller than devolping for intance same game for iPhone and Samsung Android tablet, that are having different OS and and architecture, and that's a whole point.

Again, I know what Nintendo said they planing and I know Nintendo patents that are basically same thing Nintendo already mentioned and I know about rumours, so my thinking is based on those informations. Of Course nothing is certain until the Nintendo revil NX, but I think there are good chances that NX will be what I think it will be.

So yes, I have very clear idea what NX will be, and believe me, I am not only one with that same idea.

I'd bet you'd be pretty shocked how many games for the iPad aren't available on the iPhone. it's a lot less than 90% of whats made for iPad. There are entire companies that make software and apps exclusively for iPad and other tablets because they don't think they can offer the same experience on as small screen real estate as the iPhone. Developers do need to put in extra work to make one work well on the other and it is not trivial. While it is easier to port games from iPhone to iPad than it is to port games from iPhone to Android it is not significantly easier. And that's my point entirely. The iPad and iPhone have two similar but distinctly seperate software market places. Apple has never and would never put out anything that says you can play all your iPad games on your iPhone, like you're saying Nintendo will do. iPad games are iPad games. iPhone games are iPhone games. The two are not cross-compatible. The two are very similar, but not the same.

So going forward, let's assume the architecture is remarkably similar (it probably will be). Let's say it's 50% easier to port a NX home game to NX portable and vice versa than it was to port a Wii U game to the 3DS (and that's probably being generous-  but let's say that's what Nintendo meant when they talked about addressing software droughts). Those are two completely different cames for two different devices that are not compatible with another. They would have to have distinct packaging in stores. Games for both would be sold side-by-side as similar but seperate games. It would not be one game for two platforms unless Nintendo both mandates that third party developers must put in the extra work to support both, sell both games under one package (similar to Sony's cross-buy service they did with PS3 and PSV games). However what Nintendo would be doing is essentially telling developers that they have to put in more work for less potential profit (A million seller on the NX vs a million seller on the PS4 would cost more to make and it would make the third parties less money they they would if users were forced to buy two copies for two Nintendo platforms). That's a hard sell for third parties, because frankly it would be a lot easier for them to just churn out games for the PS4 and X1 which will more than likely have an established user base of 70+ million before the NX comes out. Why bother spending more effort on a console that has zero indication it will sell very well, whenWithout third parties, the NX is doomed before it even gets off the ground.

Again, you think you knoiw what Nintendo is planning, and you think the patents are related. You do not know that, and you've admitted as much. So maybe you should stop acting as if your assumptions are factual and stop saying things like "Nintendo will", and start saying things like "I believe Nintendo will". It is 100% irrelevant if more than one of you people are taking what Nitnendo has said and totally blown it out of proportion to elevate anything Nintendo says, as a defintive "this is what Nintendo's next console will be" or some other nonsense. It tends to be a common trend among you and people of similar interests on this site.