Unverified dev guesses: NX might more powerful than PS4/XBONE, based on a PC demo...

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bunchanumbers said:

spemanig said:

GTA was a far second behind DVDs. There were a lot of people who didn't even know the PS2 was a gaming system. I anecdotally know someone who thought playstation was a disk media brand until recently, with the "play" meaning to "press play" on a DVD player.

Especially with the PS2, I think people vastly underestimate how significant the DVD player was, or how similar its success was to the Wiis.

Pretty much this. I had friends who bought it just because it was a cheap DVD player. Hell I bought one because it was a cheap DVD player.

Maybe you both overestimate the significance of DVDs in PS2 success. That anecdotal evidence is nice and everything but lets look at the facts.

DVDs didn't became massive overnight and by the time they trully exploded (2003-2004) the PS2 was already the dominant platform by far. The games that cemented the PS2 as market leader IMO where GTA3 (2001) and GTA:VC (2002). More importantly, I think the PS2was the one that helped DVDs, in penetrating the market.

In my eyes:  GTA made the PS2 dominate sales (2001-2002) ---> helped DVDs explode (2003-2004) ---> made the PS2 even more sucessful in later years.

Maybe DVDs sold more PS2s than GTA when everything was said and done, especially in the later years. But GTA was the catalyst that made the PS2 sucessful in the first place. I might be wrong, of course.