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spemanig said:
Soundwave said:

I disagree. Sony and MS' consoles do *a lot* these days, are easy to use, interface with Facebook/Twitter/Instagram and have fantastic online communities that dwarf Nintendo's current standing and are increasing their platform interface with smartphones and tablets as well. Microsoft looks to be giving their OS a massive upgrade this Decmeber too and no doubt that will push Sony to improve what they're offering. 

Nintendo will be able to share games probably between portable and console, but that in of itself isn't going to sway many of the Playstation/XBox core fanbase IMO. 

Nintendo has allowed Sony/MS too long of free reign over the types of audiences that buy the important modern console franchises like Destiny, Madden, Call of Duty, FIFA, Assassin's Creed, etc. ... they have no sway with this audience at all any more and IMO they're not going to be able to pull another Wii because Apple is killing them on the other end with free games and far sexier and more appealling true lifestyle products, not just "games and toys". 

They need something that's a big game changer than this with the NX. 

The Wii was a radical departure from anything before it that could be understand in like 20 seconds. And even THEN, they *barely* managed to beat Sony even though Sony did virtually everything wrong with the PS3 early on while virtually everything possible went right for Nintendo early on. 


I'm not saying they don't do a lot. But they aren't the platform I'm describing. When I say "smart console," I don't mean a console that does multimedia alright. Again, that "in and of it self" isn't relevent, because it won't be just about sharing games.

I don't think they will try to poll a Wii. They're going to pull an Apple. They aren't trying to get back mobile gamers with the NX. They are going to redefine the current gaming platform langscape. I think they absolutely have sway, and I think everyone in the industry knows that Nintendo are just a sleeping giant, especially Sony and Microsoft. It only takes one good console to make someone switch. I think NX will be that console. By the time the NX launches, there will be maybe 100m+ old PS360 owners who still haven't made the jump to next gen for whatever reason, and if the NX is as compelling a plaform as I'm sure it will be, a lot of those people are going to go with the NX, and if Nintendo can capitalize on that momentum as I'm sure they will, the NX is going to be a runaway success. Like easily. 


What does "pull an Apple" even mean? This is kind of like saying the guy who hasn't gotten laid on a date in six years is going to "pull a Brad Pitt" all of the sudden. 

Even Apple can't "pull an Apple" so easily, lol, they are just iterating off of what Steve Jobs started there, they haven't been able to create a break out new product hit and Apple's appeal is way beyond anything Nintendo could ever function as. 

Apple is basically a luxury fashion brand, part electronics company but part Louis Vuitton/Chanel/Gucci, their appeal transcends "nerd electronics" and has for a long time.  Nintendo is more associated with elementary age school children. Unless they stop making toys and video games with cartoon characters, that image of them is virtually impossible to change. 

Beyond that I don't think people actually want to do 5000 things on their home console. A phone that does 5000 things makes sense. A video game console doing the same is an idea that's been tried again and again without huge success. Even by Apple. Outside of playing video games, the only thing people want to from their couch while looking at a television is maybe watch a movie/TV program. Not listen to their music, not surf the internet, not check Facebook, not order pizza, not use as a TV remote even. 

Nintendo and MS both billed their current consoles as basically "smart consoles" that would redefine the living room experience, the very first Wii U trailer is of the dude playing Mario, then the friend switching to watch TV while he continues to play on the controller, watch Youtube videos, video chat, etc. Same with the "All in One XBox One" where they focused on being able to change TV channels with your voice, browse the internet, blah, blah, blah. The only company that steered clear of all that shit was Sony, and lo and behold the PS4 is outselling both of them combined.