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Soundwave on 11 October 2015
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spemanig said:
Soundwave said:

You really think "rewards" are something Sony/MS can't do? If it's something that Nintendo even does (which I'm not even sure about, this is the same Nintendo that refuses to drop the price one penny on 95% of their 5+ year old games) and proves to have some success with, Sony/MS will simply copy it. 

PS+ is already kind of like this, you pay an amount that is basically the cost of one regular game and you get a bunch of "free" games as a "rewards", it's just semantics in terms of labelling it differently. 

I doubt very much Nintendo will give discounts on their big tent pole games either (the Mario Karts, Splatoons, Mario 3Ds, of the world). 


I think rewards are something they are very clearly uninterested in doing. It goes completely against a subscription model. They are doing it. Iwata literally said that's what their next rewards program would be.

PS+ is absolutely nothing like it. They are not semantics at all. The whole point of a rewards program is to insentivize consumers to purchase more software by rewarding them with something. The PS+/XBLG subsription model is made to give Sony and MS a fixed yearly income and insentivize more consistant player activity. They have no interest in trying to get you to do or buy anything. In their case, it's the exact opposite. If you're subscribed to PS+, you're more likely to boot up your PS4 at least once a month to download and play the "free" game that game with the service you're paying for. PS+ games are not free or rewards just like Netflix movies are not free or rewards and just like Loot Crate goodies are not free or rewards. They aren't free. You payed for them. You payed a subscription fee to a service that is being given to you. That's all.

Again, they said they would. Iwata literally said they would reward players who purchased more with bigger discounts and flexible pricing on software. That's a verbatum quote. Now if you think he was lying, there's no point continuing this discussion. You think he's lying. I think he's telling the truth. My whole point is based on his words being true, so I'm not going to debate the idea that he made a bold face lie about the membership program.


If it has any success, Sony will copy it. Actually Microsoft will probably copy it even before the NX comes out, then Sony will follow suit. 

Things like this are easy to copy, and a program like PS+ can easily be reworked to basically be the same thing. Right now PS+ is "free games for the price of one game" basically already. 

It's not like Sony is averse to giving away free games, I remember PS3 controllers coming bundled with free games like LBP or Uncharted 2 or God of War (your choice with different controller colors) along with there being like 20 different PS4 hardware bundles with free games now. Rewards wouldn't be any kind of fundamental step beyond that. 

I don't think the membership program will be as great as you think it is either, Nintendo is not going to give deep discounts into their tent-pole "big money" titles. If you start giving people things like big money titles at deep $20-$30 discounts or giving each big release away with free toys, free extra game downloads, etc. then people will start to expect that from every game.