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D-Joe said:
DerNebel said:

bolded: Here you have one of them:

http://www.icxm.net/x/forza-series-xbox-7-mil.html

1. No, what the info said was between Forza 5 and Horizon 2, there was absolutely no confirmation that demo players weren't included. Can you prove to me that demo players are not included in this leaderboard, if you can do that then I'll happily admit that demo players aren't included (cause that effectively doesn't matter anyway, the number is still misleading as all hell)

 

2. The point is that that is the reason have a problem with this piece of PR which you apparently don't want to see.

Also if you want this to be an discussion stop crying that "this is only a problem because it's Xbox", no it's a problem because it's giving a number designed specifically to make people think the game sold way more than it actually did.

And this is the demo leaderboard looks, all of them are level 1 because there are no level system in demo.

 

Are you going to add 1.88m in it?

But at least today i know what is true BS and even think yourself is right when you never even played the game.

They problem is only hater think it's a problem and that's it.

ICXM? that just Xbox version of dualshocker, why would you even care that site? you serious think i would give a free pass to Xbox fanboy?

Also check my first reply with the PR and which 3 comment i quoted, even you think the PR is BS, is that mean haters can use another BS like "demo counted" to respond?

 

Oh wait you don't even care racers and yet you spend a lot of time to bashing Forza.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=7511174

So the demo isn't included, good then I was wrong on that, though you should maybe reread my first reply to you in which I said that it was a possibility and not necessarily a fact. What it certainly isn't is bullshit to see it as a possibility, they already used a straight up lie when saying that it's "unique players", so who's to say it's impossible that they would use this to boost numbers as well?

The rest of your post is just childish.

bolded: Is entirely irrelevant, nothing but a cheap attempt at deflection and I surely would love to know how I "bashed Forza" in that post

Who gives a shit if it's ICXM, you asked for someone saying that and I gave you what you wanted, stop acting like a child (using the term "hater" in a serious fashion is nothing anyone should do) and trying to twist this whole thing. I never said everyone would believe it, but that there are going to be people that will and I just proved to you that I was right